You’re not factoring in the size. The honors college at Umass will attract some of the best students around. Those kids whose parents cannot or will not pay super high tuition. You can find kids there who got a spot in the nation’s top colleges and decided on UMass to graduate without debt or who have decided they plan to go to graduate school.
Tufts and BC are great schools. IMO, not for CS. What you take where matters.
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U Mass Honors is great. They readily accept kids who are in the top 20% of their class. It is still easier to be admitted to honors than to be admitted to Tufts or BC.
I do understand your point though. You feel CS is not strong at BC and Tufts.
Isn’t what everyone posts here based on what they feel? You post what you feel. Others disagree and post what they feel. There is no truly objective answer to this question.
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Not entirely true. It is factual that colleges admit students of different levels.
Which does nothing to answer the question of “How good is Tufts for computer science?”
Its obvious you have a bias against UMass. My husband worked for years in the software industry in MA. His company preferred to hire from UMass over the privates you seem to think are better just because they admit kids with higher stats on average.
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@me29034 We’ve exactly the same experience. Decades in the software business, started multiple companies, have raised VC and been at many top/named companies who can recruit from anywhere, UMass would be preferred to the privates listed.
You aren’t hiring the stats of the college, you are hopefully hiring from the best of the school in a particular field. Also, I’d bet that CS grad are the top of the admits for UMass. So while a 20% number might work for the entering class in its entirety, it’s not going to be the same for CS and Engineering which have far more competition for available spots.
Now, if I was hiring for other jobs, I might go with another school.
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Love U Mass - lol. I have a 20 year relationship with the school.
@PurpleFaithful The issue with small LAC’s is that they very often don’t meet the same level of (1) of that list I provided. I also wouldn’t use “teaching quality” for an overall school to reflect a technical subject at an LAC as it really depends on the college, and some LAC’s fall behind in CS if their department is not big or getting updated attention. There are good LAC’s for CS (like Mudd) but some won’t offer as much in courses or professors, let alone research. The thing to check for a LAC is that the department is big enough, and enough high level electives are offered. I don’t know Carleton specifically, but the thread below is a good starting point:
Looking there at a quick glance, it seems like there isn’t as much as some other LAC’s, but again, fit and cost can still make it a viable option.
Programmer here…CS is ridiculously employable, and there’s an almost infinite variety of specialties, subspecialties, and microspecialties you could do. It doesn’t matter where you go to school. And most of it doesn’t even require math. The degree only teaches you the basics. 99.99% of everything else will be learned on the job. In fact after about 2-3 years of experience, employers don’t even ask where you went to school, because it’s not relevant.
Job prospects are really a function of the local job market. Internships can help, but they’re not required. Almost all employers recruit locally and regionally for entry level jobs. It’s much more cost efficient that way. If I’m a Texas company, there’s no need to fly recruits for interviews when I can find the same bright graduates at UT-Austin or Texas A&M. Even better, if I’m a Houston company, it’s even easier to recruit from U of H.
Still, after a few years experience in your specialty, you’ll be interviewing at the exact same level as the candidates who went to Berkeley. Go with a program you can afford, and be sure to come out with some proficiency in a widely used language. A level 1 and level 2 course in, say, Java, SQL, etc. should work.
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Yes!! Have you seen the rankings lately???