<p>Well, Anhydrosis2000, if were going to have an ego war, I got a 36 on the math ACT, an 800 on the SAT I, SAT II Math 1, and SAT II Math 2, and have been the highest scoring female in Alabama on the AMC for 4 years in a row (averaging about number 20 if you count in the males, to be fair), but I still believe the majority of Honors Math students are smarter than me, which is fine, because at the end of the day, or my academic career, Id be perfectly happy being barefoot in the kitchen baking cupcakes for them. So I guess, personally, I dont really plan on making money. I find business incredibly boring beyond the big house one may buy with profits. But I guess thats possible through gold-digging, too.</p>
<p>Oh, and I rarely admit it, but I like math people. And its nice that you dont drink, dont let college change you. If theres one social situation I hate, its being around drunk people. And yay! Go capitalism! I heart Adam Smith.</p>
<p>Quite a few describes the total number of honors math majors, not how many had your same background. I can only think of one in my class, and that's only because he's extremely lazy and wouldn't want to bother with dual enrolling.</p>
<p>Just because it's called a college class doesn't mean it covers college level material. Calc 1 and 2 are still just learning a whole bunch of rules and never doing much of anything. Most 100 level classes could easily be taught in high school.</p>
<p>It's not like business school is the only way to get a decent paying job. You can do pretty much anything and find a way to be successful with it.</p>
<p>Last year I did the job because I was planning on helping out as an undergraduate assistant with a class (thought that fell through), and I didn't know (or care) what it paid ahead of time. I did it again this year because not very many jobs fit in along with Intensive spanish in the spring term and random things like weddings and getting wisdom teeth out in August.</p>
<p>Geez... I quit... too many math majors versus a lowly freshman to be.</p>
<p>However, before I leave this extraordinary crowd, I want to say that both Calc I and II were taught from a REAL college text books in a class full of gifted students (all 10 at my school) by a teacher with a masters degree. And I was "dual enrolled." Plus, I am by no means lazy. My real interests simply are found elsewhere. Last I checked, this was not a sin.</p>
<p>An accountant will tell you that Accounting I and II are not anywhere near the same thing as Intermediate or Advanced Accounting. They are apples and oranges, and I take your point that upper level math courses are not the same as lower level. This is true in virtually any major. However, most high school students are not able to take upper level courses in their areas of interest (at least not in the backwaters where I live). All of us have to start somewhere. </p>
<p>At least we have one thing in common, we're both getting our wisdom teeth out in August! ;)</p>
<p>(One more ego war? The BC Calc teacher at my school got her BS, MS, and PhD in math from Duke and no one's gotten less than a 5 on their AP for 6 years.)</p>
<p>No, you don't seem lazy and yes, we need good business people in this world. And don't worry about wisdom teeth, they don't hurt too badly. Want a cupcake?</p>
<p>Never said you were lazy, just saying that the reason the one kid in my class never went beyond Calc BC was because of that.</p>
<p>Whether or not it was actually at a college or taught from a college textbook doesn't change the fact that Calc I and II are much more like high school mathematics than college mathematics.</p>
<p>Chritine, I was responding to Dilsky's comment that "not a single person from B-School could even attempt a Math major." I'm not into ego wars. I'm smart enough to know I'm not the smartest person in the crowd. (See my earlier references to being a non-genius.) However, my hubris will extend so far that I could attempt to be a Math major and even make it. I might even be in the lower part of the class, but I haven't failed at anything I put my mind to and I don't plan to start my college career with a defeatist attitude.</p>
<p>Why must 289 be scheduled on freakin' wednesday? That's one class I was totally looking forward to taking, but it was totally impossible to schedule.</p>
<p>Haha, there goes my performance on the Putnam this year.</p>
<p>So you guys knew it was only a matter of time before I got in on this. I had a busy day yesterday so wasn't able to get online, but here I am. To respond to flames thrown by the business folk, math majors aren't without money this summer. I'm making over $30/hour doing math. I teach, and like Christine's teacher, none of my students have ever gotten less than a 5 or an 800 after taking my class. And the difference is, I can actually feel that I'm helping people. I don't think I'd get the same satisfaction in the business world. I also think the reason that 20% of the sophomore honors math majors at Michigan post on this forum and we probably couldn't even say the same for 1% of business majors is because we are a pretty selfless bunch and enjoy using our knowledge to help out our fellow man (as witnessed by the nature of our academic undertaking). The truth of the matter is that there are numerous areas of business where intellect will get you more pay than an a great social intelligence (sorry dilksy, we are pretty awkward, there's no denying that) and most math majors will turn down a "b-school salary" some time in their life to pursue something they actually love. And I, too, am slightly turned on by the idea of an amazingly intelligent female barefoot in my kitchen making me cupcakes (in case you didn't know, Christine, you got every math major on this thread a little too excited with that post). Anhydrosis, I admire your desire to show that you're capable of a math major, but you really don't know how silly your posts sound in light of actually taking a math class in the honors sequence. A year ago, I may have been like, yeah anhydrosis sounds like a really smart guy, I'm sure he could handle the major, but after taking it, I chuckle a little bit at your posts. You simply don't know what it's like, so leave it up to those who have been there to know. And tetrahedr0n, I've been trying to fit 289 in my schedule for 3 semesters and have still been unable to, so there goes my Putnam score too. I plan on pulling some sort of miracle and still taking 289 thrice before the end of my 7th semester, but that will be tough. I may drop in the for the cupcakes though. Actually Christine, can you just bring them to my room (I take it you'll be spending more time in south quad than in martha cook this semester)?</p>
<p>"But one of the main reasons I hear for people going into B-school is to make money, and that's pretty much the definition of a sell-out."</p>
<p>Going into the bschool, I'm a little nervous about this myself..I really don't want all my classmates being wealth-obsessed and power-hungry. But this is hopefully a stereotype..I want to go into non-profit business (preferably something internationally with 3rd would country/ies). So yes, you can't say ALL bschool students are like that..</p>
<p>Stereotypes exist for a reason. Someone didn't just randomly make a stereotype about how mathematicians are socially retarded. It exists because for a good deal of mathematicians this is true. Same thing applies to business. No one is saying that every person is the B-school is going to obsessed with making money, but don't think that most of them aren't. There was one guy in my dorm who respects people that vote Republican because they're looking out for their personal finances. i.e. he is not only selfish, he thinks selfishness is a thing to be admired.</p>
<p>This socially retarded math major just got back from Atlanta and is already online checking college confidential. Are you sure the reason 20% of honors math majors regularly post on college confidential isnt because of our lack of ability to speak without stuttering or twitching or breaking out in hives in person? Just kidding (I think), I know what you mean by helping people and, if the barefoot in the kitchen cooking cupcakes plan fails, I will definitely teach at some level in some form. (By the way, chibears, when I met with Spatzier, he asked if I knew any of the honors math majors and I said Dilksy. And I know Im a bad person for lying, but I couldnt deal with telling him that I knew Dilksy through college confidential, thus if it ever comes up, Dilksy and I met through you, okay? Okay.)</p>
<p>Can I switch from cupcakes to cookies (as I will be a Cookie next year) or cheesecake or brownies? I think Ill plan it by week. And yeah, Ill be spending more time in South Quad than Martha Cook next year. I just came to that realization as I was reading the dress code in the Martha Cook handbook.</p>
<p>You actually met Spatzier? ... much envy. All I got was an advisor sent to tell us engineers that we better avoid honors because it's too rigorous for us and all we need is to understand a couple basic applications. I think his jaw dropped when I started telling him about my interest in a formal development of calculus.</p>
<p>And I think collegeconfidential should count as a perfectly normal social meeting place haha...</p>