<p>How much more work is a dual degree with SEAS and Wharton (specifically EE)? Will I have to skimp on liberal arts electives? Is it possible to have a decent social life without being a genious that aces everything without trying? A lot of people say that it’s almost impossible, but if it is, how do all the Jerome Fisher people do it?</p>
<p>And if I plan on doing this, should I take 5 classes freshman year, or just stick with 4?</p>
<p>Lots of work. Especially EE+Finance = craziness, but its certainly doable. You can't skimp on liberal arts because its part of the curriculum - but beyond that, it would be hard to squeeze in. </p>
<p>All the Jerome Fisher people usually do systems engineering because its the easiest. Some do the BAS programs. You rarely see M&T people who are more inclined to engineering than to business. </p>
<p>You should take 5.</p>
<p>You should probably take 5, at the very least. And make sure you plan put beforehand your four years here so you know exactly what courses to take and when.</p>
<p>Thx a lot guys! Anyone else have any advice/info? BTW can I just go for a minor in Wharton? Would that be easier than a dual degree?</p>
<p>Wharton does not offer minors. There are interschool minors, though they are pretty specialized ones (acturarial math, healthcare&BBB, american history&legal studies, etc)</p>
<p>Yea, I was thinking about doing a dual degree with engineering and business also, although, I was thinking with BME. I just feel like it's a bit of a waste to not utilize what's right there in front of you, a top school in the world. But..I'm still not sure. Good luck deciding, Silmon.</p>
<p>i know exactly wat u mean, TeaHelps. Penn engineering is decent, but right next door is the best business school in the country. I really want a dual degree while keeping an active social life. I wonder how many others do bse for dual degree?</p>
<p>Yea, heh. Well, I went to Penn Previews and I asked whether it would be better for me to do BAS or BSE if I was to do a dual and they said that it's probably better to do BAS because I'm not looking to become an actual engineer who merely does all the research, instead, BAS would be better because I want to set up a company regarding BME but still want the experience in the subject. And yea, I definetely want a social life in college so it's a really hard decision.. Oh well, maybe I'll be able to make up my mind once I actually move in.</p>
<p>I think I'll take 5 courses next year- engineering, math, physics, econ, and history. I can get a credit out of the way with history, and since history is my strongest subject it would be a nice gpa boost to meet the dual req.</p>
<p>And about the bse vs the bas- I'd prefer to stay with the bse if possible. If I could pull off a bse and a degree in wharton and still have fun in college, that would be freaking awesome.</p>
<p>thats a pretty big if</p>
<p>I am also going to try and dual, but I only want to take 4 courses first semester next year. Hopefully I will pass out of econ and physics, which will make it easier. (only taking physics lab, chem, math114?, and an engineering course)</p>
<p>Hi, I was thinking of doing a dual in Business and Engineering too, except that I'm a lot more inclined towards Business. I understand that it is possible to major in Wharton then take a minor in SEAS. Just wondering if this is a wise move?</p>
<p>Yes, that would be a wise move considering you wouldn't have to take all the pre-reqs of engineering. This is especially true with Computer Science - you don't need to take the 5CU of Math and 5CU of Science that majors have to take.</p>
<p>My parents gave me some very good advice . Whenever you are trying to decide what to do, imagine yourself after 5, 10, 15 years. What kinda lifestyle do u want. If you want to be rich, well, perhaps a history or English major may not be best. Want to get out into the workforce quickly? Premed would not be the way to go.</p>
<p>As far as business and engineering go, where do I wanna work? If I go dual degree with a bas, I'm probably going to go into business. If I do engineering, well, I can always get my MBA later. I could even go the middle route and do the dual degree with a bse, even if it takes an extra year. However, doing that would kinda prevent me from doing lots of research. Well, I think I'll have a better idea of where I wanna be once I actually start college.</p>
<p>Just a little advice from a sophomore (ooh.. that's weird that i'm a sophomore now!)</p>
<p>I'm in SEAS and was contemplating a dual degree with Wharton. I'm CSE in engineering and would probably have done Management or OPIM with Wharton. I ended up with a high enough GPA to be admitted into the dual degree program but chose not to for a variety of reasons:
1) I wanted to take some electives sometime in my 4 years at Penn. If you do a dual degree, especially with the BSE, you leave <em>very</em> little room for electivies, if any. I wanted to take some fine arts, some pysch and possibly some other classes, and with a dual degree I wouldn't have been able to do it. I would have been filling requirements for 4 years.
2) I didn't want to take 6 classes a semester. Granted i'm taking 6 next semester, but no one wants to be taking 6 classes senior year.. The average BSE and Wharton degree comes out to 46-48 credits. Even if you take a few summer classes, that's still 6 credits a semester (you can only take 5.5 freshman year, and most will stick to 5).
3) I wanted to be able to study something in depth, not two things on the surface. I wanted to be able to take some advanced computer science classes but with a dual that may not have been possible. Every elective type slot would be filled up with a wharton requirement.
4) I wanted a life. now, i'm not saying you can't take 6 classes a semester and have a life, but it's going to be a lot harder if those classes are (for example..) Calc III, Discrete Math, Computer Architecture, Stat 430 (engineers can't take 101), Finance and Legal Studies than if you are taking 3 major classes and 3 electives. That first line up was my original schedule next semester.. my current one is Calc III, Discrete Math, Comp Architecture, Fine Arts, an OPIM (wharton) class, and Astronomy. Still 6 classes, but definitely 6 more managable classes.
5) I might want to go abroad.
6) I can always go back and get an MBA later. I was talking to my OPIM professor this past semester (who just got his doctorate from Penn in CSE last year) and he said that a lot of consulting type firms would take an engineering over a wharton student because they feel that whlie wharton students are obviously very bright and very well versed in business, Engineers can think. </p>
<p>So that was a little long winded but if anyone has any questions, feel free to email me at <a href="mailto:amanda.leicht@gmail.com">amanda.leicht@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>Wharton kids can't think? Thats new to me.</p>
<p>Well, I didn't mean wharton kids can't think.. of course they can. What I meant is that engineers are considered (in general, not just at Penn), more analytical. And about the employment, this is just what my professor told me, and according to him, what his friends who work for McKinsey and such have told him.</p>
<p>Which is harder/takes longer:
a joint degree with BSE and Wharton
or
a dual degree with a BA from the College and Wharton?</p>
<p>I'm doing the BA, but I'm just curious. Joint degrees
are supposed to take off some requirements, but BSEs are otherwise
thought to be more intensive/longer than Bachelors of Arts.</p>
<p>BSE is insane. It doesn't even depend on what BA from the College. No comparison.</p>