How Hard is College Admission Nowadays

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There's no reason for your continued disparaging of Ivies, overrated. No need to be jealous of the people who get in.

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<p>So you claim the Ivy League is the epitome of quality education?</p>

<p>I disagree, as do the majority of people who aren't elite-sanctioned.</p>

<p>Contrary to popular opinion, the curriculum offered by the Ivy League does not pale in comparison to every other equally demanding school.</p>

<p>People become deluded with prestige that all other methods of calculation cease to exist. It's like Dr. Pepper and Dr. Becker, both are the same thing.</p>

<p>(Dr. Becker is just a generic example).</p>

<p>And no, I am not jealous. Just angry at those who accuse me of jealousy because I do not subscribe to cronyism or bloated test scores.</p>

<p>The Ivy League may give you a bump in life's hassles, but in the long run it won't really matter. Character will ultimately define your success, not Harvard.</p>

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cronyism

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What does this even mean?</p>

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bloated test scores.

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Harvard rejects 75% of 2400s. It takes far more than "bloated test scores" to be admitted to Ivy League schools. They look for depth of character, which is why the typical "strong stats but no life" applicant will not make it in. 2400s/4.0 UWs do not an intellectual college environment make, and Ivies know that, which is why their admissions process is as far away from purely scores based as is reasonable while keeping the academic requirements rigorous. </p>

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People become deluded with prestige that all other methods of calculation cease to exist. It's like Dr. Pepper and Dr. Becker, both are the same thing.

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There is a reason behind the prestige, even if the Ivy League started out as an athletic conference. The Ivy League educations and prestige feed off one another.</p>

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I disagree, as do the majority of people who aren't elite-sanctioned.

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Actually, if you take the average uneducated person and ask them what is the best university in the world, he will probably say something like Harvard OR maybe a state university. But if you collected all the data and looked for what was mentioned most, I'll bet you it's Harvard. Most people who aren't "elite-sanctioned" go by reputation. BTW, didn't you just contradict yourself?</p>

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cronyism
What does this even mean?

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<p>You know what a crony is..right?<br>

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Harvard rejects 75% of 2400s.

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<p>I'm not debating Harvard's requirements. </p>

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It takes far more than "bloated test scores" to be admitted to Ivy League schools.

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<p>Irrelevant. </p>

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They look for depth of character, which is why the typical "strong stats but no life" applicant will not make it in.

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<p>I'm sorry, but a resume cannot measure the depth of a person. Any citizen with enough money and connections can get internships at top hospitals, law firms, and science institutes...not to mention the summer programs and pricey extracurriculars.</p>

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<p>2400s/4.0 UWs do not an intellectual college environment make, and Ivies know that, which is why their admissions process is as far away from purely scores based as is reasonable while keeping the academic requirements rigorous.

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<p>These schools couldn't care less about intelligence. </p>

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There is a reason behind the prestige, even if the Ivy League started out as an athletic conference. The Ivy League educations and prestige feed off one another.

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<p>What is the reason? You're avoiding my questiont: Do you believe the Ivy League is the epitome of education? </p>

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Actually, if you take the average uneducated person and ask them what is the best university in the world, he will probably say something like Harvard OR maybe a state university.

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<p>So..?</p>

<p>If you ask the average uneducated person (which by the way, is a very pompous expression) and ask them what his favorite television show is, odds are he'll say CSI. </p>

<p>So what? </p>

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But if you collected all the data and looked for what was mentioned most, I'll bet you it's Harvard. Most people who aren't "elite-sanctioned" go by reputation. BTW, didn't you just contradict yourself?

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<p>No, those who argue persistently that the Ivy League is teh betz skolz in da univors are elite-sanctioned. </p>

<p>And by the way, a competent surveyor would never pose such a black and white question like, "What do you think is the best university?"</p>

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<p>Quick clarification before you continue with this fight:
If Harvard rejects 75% of 2400s doesn't it mean a scorer with those credentials has a 25% chance of acceptance on scores alone? That's 2.5 times greater than the average applicant and that's only based on test scores alone. I don't exactly see that as a legitimate reason in this type of argument. Correct me if I'm wrong.</p>

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<p>why would they be accepted on scores alone. If Harvard rejects 75% of 2400s, those students probably didnt have the ECs, the grades, or the essays to compete with the 25% of 2400s that got accepted. Yeah, you can say that because they have a 2400 they have a 25% acceptance rate automatically, but 25% isnt a lot, considering that nearly all other colleges would have acceptance rates well above 50% for students with those scores.</p>

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<p>Probably the majority of American colleges have 90%+ acceptance rate for 2400s. In comparison, Harvard would be unimpressed with good test scores, especially when it receives so many high ones. The overall application and the whole student are more carefully judged since so many applicants are qualified. "Bloated test scores" clearly have little power when even three out of four perfects are rejected.</p>