How hard is it for an international to get into NYU and Penn (wharton) with aid?

<p>I'm thinking about NYU, wharton, MIT and maybe Mcgill.</p>

<p>MIT is need bling for internationals, so that's great. But I don't think I'd fit in there and their undergrad business degree is apparently quite technology centered, which I don't like.</p>

<p>Does anyone know about Stern and Wharton? I've heard stern is not great for giving aid to internationals and that it would be hard to get...how true is this?</p>

<p>Also, does anyone know about your rights as an international student on a student visa? Because I may be majoring in entrepreneurship and was thinking that I would not be allowed to take part in student startup companies and projects like that if I am there on a student visa. DOes anyone know about this?</p>

<p>thanks</p>

<p>those schools give the worst aid to international students from what i hear. you have to be really, really, really impressive. and smart can help you. but you have to wow them. goodluck with that :)</p>

<p>about the visa, i think that if that's your course, student start ups dont begin until maybe 2nd year and i think that by that time youre allowed to work already. or the school will issue a document that allows you to work because it's like an internship so it;s allowed.</p>

<p>ask the admissions office to be sure :)</p>

<p>Yes, UPenn practically says "don't apply if you're an international with aid". Well, what they say isn't exactly that, but still, it's worded very very strongly.</p>

<p>Yeah, I remember when thinking about applying to UPenn, I was put of by their financial aid page:</p>

<p>"The University is able to offer financial assistance to very few students who are not citizens or permanent residents of the U.S., Canada or Mexico. Therefore, most non-citizens should plan to meet expenses for their entire schooling before applying for admission. Because the offer of admission for non-citizens is directly linked to their ability to meet these expenses, candidates whose families have the financial means to afford educational costs are urged not to apply for Penn-sponsored assistance."
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<p>Wharton is ridiculously hard to get into, but being an international who will need aid... well tbh you're chances are close to zero. MIT of course will be amazingly hard as well. NYU isn't that hard, but considering that they're stingy as heck, don't count on getting in even if you have great stats and ECs. If you can somehow come up with enough money, NYU will be your best shot. I know plenty int. students who got into NYU with okayish stats and ECs. If I were you I'd just go to Oxbridge or some London uni and save your money.</p>

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Yeah, I remember when thinking about applying to UPenn, I was put of by their financial aid page:</p>

<p>"The University is able to offer financial assistance to very few students who are not citizens or permanent residents of the U.S., Canada or Mexico. Therefore, most non-citizens should plan to meet expenses for their entire schooling before applying for admission. Because the offer of admission for non-citizens is directly linked to their ability to meet these expenses, candidates whose families have the financial means to afford educational costs are urged not to apply for Penn-sponsored assistance."
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<p>I now feel like an Idiot to have applied, especially when I knew that they gave Fin aid to only one Indian Last year (out of around 40 Indians who entered), that too only partial.</p>

<p>EDIT: And they were reviewing my app till the last day the decision were finalized, but ended up accepting an ******* from my school who wasn't asking for aid. lol rofl lmao</p>

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And they were reviewing my app till the last day the decision were finalized, but ended up accepting an ******* from my school who wasn't asking for aid.

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How do you know that?</p>

<p>I got a hit form upenn.edu on a url sent with my Resume on Saturday (24th, I think).</p>