How hard is it for an out of stater to get accepted into CALS?

[9LIVES]

<p>From NJ and I know they accept mostly NY residents, my app would be fairly competitive for Cornell standards but will my non NY residency put me at a large dissadvantage?</p>

[mrsopresident]

<p>residency doesn’t play a factor in admissions, at least not in the sense you believe it does (based on your question). CALS, and Cornell as a whole (speaking for undergrad) has so many New Yorkers because that’s where the majority of applicants are from…not because they have a rule of accepting “mostly NY residents.”</p>

[9LIVES]

<p>Interesting… thanks=)</p>

[Cornelli2008]

<p>really? I thought they had to have a certain percentage from NY? Maybe someone was lying to me</p>

[TehRahk]

<p>nope it’s just the reduced tuition that attracts a lot of ny state applicants.</p>

[IHateS_T]

<p>No i think they have to accept a certain percentage of NY applicants out of the total for those endowed colleges, which CALS is. But dont worry im from Canada and got into AEM without any business experience !!!</p>

[Tahoe]

<p>This comes up about every 3 weeks. I think the mods should make it a “sticky”. Here’s the answer from the “Dear Uncle Ezra” column.</p>

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• • • • • • • • • • • • • • • Question 10 - - December 9, 2004 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -</p>

<p>Dear Uncle Ezra,
I have a question concerning Cornell’s status as an Ivy League School. According to definition,
an Ivy League school is a private instution, and part of some type of sports league which was established back in the day. These institutions include Brown, Dartmouth, Harvard, Yale, and Princeton. However, Cornell is made up of not only the private A+S, Engineering, and Architecture schools, but Hum Ec, Ag, and ILR. (Not sure about Hotel)Despite any notability they might have, they are significantly easier to get into for NY state residents, and cheaper as well due to their status as a public state school. Therefore,
isn’t it true that these schools are NOT Ivy League? shed the light proud arts and science student
Dear proud,</p>

<p>I too am proud of the College of Arts and Sciences undergraduates just as I am equally proud of the outstanding students in Human Ecology, CALS, ILR, Hotel, Engineering, and AAP, and the graduate and professional schools as well. Cornell University is a unique and wonderful place with many special qualities. I think, however, that you have several misconceptions about the university, including its status as an Ivy League institution, its admissions policies, and the caliber of our student body.</p>

<p>1) The Ivy League is an athletic conference. What sets this group of schools apart from other conferences is its adherence to the Ivy agreement, which most notably reflects common admissions standards and the absence of athletic scholarships. The Ivy schools are Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Penn, Princeton, and Yale. To learn more see Q11 from 2/18/03 posting. </p>

<p>2) Cornell University is a land grant university for the State of New York, so our mission is both public and private, which is one of the many unique features that sets Cornell apart from our Ivy peers. This standing also puts us in another elite group of other land grant institutions across the U.S.</p>

<p>3) At one time, Cornell University’s contract colleges (Agriculture and Life Sciences, Human Ecology, and Industrial and Labor Relations) used residency as a factor in the admissions process. However, it is important to note that these colleges have always admitted the best students, regardless of residency. As the applicant pools have begun to shift and the university receives larger numbers of domestic and international applications, university statistics suggest that residency has actually become a non-factor in admission to these colleges. In general, the proportion of New York State residents who are admitted and enroll in these colleges is equivalent to the proportion of NYS students in the entire applicant pool. This has actually been the case for several years.

</p>

[mrsopresident]

<p>No they don’t! Quotas are illegal in this country, so the idea that Cornell has to accept a certain percentage of NY applications is simply wrong. Check out this excerpt from an answer provided to a question on the “Dear Uncle Ezra” advice column on December 9th, 2004:</p>

<p>“3) At one time, Cornell University’s contract colleges (Agriculture and Life Sciences, Human Ecology, and Industrial and Labor Relations) used residency as a factor in the admissions process. However, it is important to note that these colleges have always admitted the best students, regardless of residency. As the applicant pools have begun to shift and the university receives larger numbers of domestic and international applications, university statistics suggest that residency has actually become a non-factor in admission to these colleges. In general, the proportion of New York State residents who are admitted and enroll in these colleges is equivalent to the proportion of NYS students in the entire applicant pool. This has actually been the case for several years.”</p>

<p>And CALS is not an endowed college. Its a contract college!
(Note, the University of Michigan Supreme Court case made quotas illegal, but I believe Cornell’s contract colleges stopped giving “preference” to NY applicants before the decision was rendered)</p>

[IHateS_T]

<p>thx mrsopresident but u were late on the race for the quote to Tahoe lol</p>

[Cornelli2008]

<p>thanks for clarifying!! But yea there are definitely a lot of applicants from New York State due to the reduced tuition. I heard someone actually say that they could easily fill up the entire class at CALS with kids from Long Island since they get so many strong applicants from there</p>

[Majman]

<p>If you are in an “under-represented” area of the country (Oklahoma and Texas are big ones) then you have a better chance. Being from the North-East certainly doesn’t help you.</p>

[Made_in_China]

<p>^What about Utah?</p>

[Majman]

<p>Yes, probably Utah too.</p>