How hard is it for OOS

<p>I want to get into University of Michigan</p>

<p>Michi Gpa-3.4</p>

<p>Took many APs and honors</p>

<p>2000 SAT</p>

<p>200 Hours community service
Member of robotics team
Qualified for CTY
Volunteered at summer camps for 2 consecutive summers
Many clibs</p>

<p>California</p>

<p>But will it be a reacher or very hard for me></p>

<p>^It’ll definitely be a reach because of your low GPA. It would even be a slight reach for an in-state student.</p>

<p>What’s your race/gender, and what college are you applying to?</p>

<p>^race/ethnicity won’t matter for Michigan.</p>

<p>^ Yeah it will, being a URM will definitely help…</p>

<p>If you get your SAT up maybe another 50 pts or so then I’d say you’ve certainly got a shot. You’ve also really challenged yourself with tough courses.</p>

<p>Race clearly helps in the college admissions process, especially at Michigan. I know many URM’s that have gotten in with below average test scores and GPA. Saying race doesn’t matter is untrue. You can get in with a 3.4 and a 2000. It isn’t going to be easy, but its still possible. It would be different if you were applying to an Ivy league, but you are applying to Michigan, where the acceptance rate is close to 50% overall. Not saying Michigan is a bad school. Its a phenomenal school, but it isn’t that hard to get into.</p>

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<li>The most recent admittance rate at Michigan was 40% not 50.</li>
<li>No school is “that hard to get into” if you have the requisite profile. This years admit class had a Michigan GPA of 3.8 (UW). 75th%-tile SATs (CR + M only) were 1430, assuming the OP’s 2000 is evenly distributed he/she has roughly a 1320.</li>
<li>This year’s entering class was comprised of roughly 63% in-state, leaving a limited number of spots available for OOS. Given the current economic situation in Michigan I would expect there to be even more demand this year from in-state students.</li>
<li>The OP has not stated whether they are URM or not.</li>
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<p>Given those facts, I feel that your app is closer to the “very hard” end of the scale.</p>

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The reverse, actually. A bad economy means great news for OOS applicants. Publics love them, because they can use them as cash cows. In any case, Michigan has far more OOS students than most other top publics.</p>

<p>[Cashing</a> in on Out-of-State Students](<a href=“http://www.newuniversity.org/2009/01/opinion/cashing_in_on_out-of-state174/]Cashing”>Cashing in on Out-of-State Students | New University | UC Irvine)</p>

<p>[Non-resident</a> students help states financially, study shows](<a href=“http://www.umich.edu/news/index.html?Releases/2002/Jul02/chr073102a]Non-resident”>http://www.umich.edu/news/index.html?Releases/2002/Jul02/chr073102a)</p>

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Also incorrect. The admit rate for 2013 was 49.7%.</p>

<p>[Office</a> of Undergraduate Admissions: About Michigan](<a href=“http://www.admissions.umich.edu/about/]Office”>Explore & Visit | University of Michigan Office of Undergraduate Admissions)</p>

<p>Not exactly, IB. Michigan has a relatively stable, predetermined ratio of in-state and out-of-state acceptances based on (and fluctuating according to) anticipated yield rates – eg. 65/35 apx. Meaning about one OOS student gets in for every 2 Michigan residents (roughly).
With respect to whether or not being an URM is an advantage in the admissions process, that seems to be more influenced by socioeconomic conditions and individual challenges met/overcome than race alone – but since applicants are evaluated holistically, it can <em>seem</em> more advantageous than other schools. Eg. for the OP – does your 3.4 put you in the top 10% of your class? Are your SATS high for your school? Did you overcome substantial challenges or disadvantages in order to do well? Is your school known to be rigorous? Are you from an underrepresented urban environment?
Those are the types of things you may wish to ensure are included in your app/essays to offset what is a statistically lower-side (eg. less than 14% of admits under 3.5) GPA.
Best wishes!</p>

<p>how much do UMich Nursing grads earn?</p>

<p>there are plenty of dumb URMs at ivies, it isn’t just at michigan. I went to a very racially diverse school with over 40% black people, pretty crappy school, black kids who are borderlined top 10% got into the lower ivies (cornell, brown) all the time, these are personal anecdotes, but i’ve seen way too many of these cases to be just coincidents, or due to some “uniqueness” factor, meanwhile the asian/jewish kids with same stats will get flat out rejected 9/10 times, and end up at SUNY-Binghamton.</p>

<p>Perusal of recent Common Data Sets show:</p>

<p>Admit Rates of '09-'10 - 50%, '08-'09 - 42%, '07-'08 - 50%, '06-'07 - 47%
Percentage of Freshman in the Top 10% of their graduating class: 94, 92, 92, 90
Entering freshman GPA 3.75 or higher: 66%, 63%, 64%, NR
Entering freshman GPA 3.5 or higher: 85%, 88%, 88.7%, NR
% IN-State vs OOS vs INTL 2008 - 09: 65% IN 29% OOS 6% INTL Per MI Office of Information
Current overall Michigan Resident population: 66% per [Office</a> of Undergraduate Admissions: About Michigan](<a href=“http://www.admissions.umich.edu/about/]Office”>Explore & Visit | University of Michigan Office of Undergraduate Admissions)</p>

<p>My apologies for overstating the selectivity of UM. Furthermore, my apologies for providing an overly optimistic estimate of spots available to OOS applicants, it is not 37% but much closer to 30%. Finally, unlike the University of California system, to my knowledge Michigan has made no announcements about actively increasing the number of OOS admits. As kmccrindle has pointed out, non-Michigan admits have hovered at a consistent 35% level for a number of years.</p>

<p>To the OP, I don’t mean to imply that you have no chance at getting admitted to Michigan, however the weight of the statistics makes you app look like an (steep) uphill climb.</p>

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<p>Wow, I hope the admit rate doesn’t drop drastically again this year…</p>

<p>^
Yeah I know…, I’ve notice the pattern presented above.</p>