<p>Hello: Appreciate any insight from current students or recent grads. I've posted on several threads as my son is attempting to determine whether he could be a competitive applicant for the Comm School. </p>
<p>Do current students find the pre-reqs and recommended involvement in ECs and work "doable" or is it overwhelming with a high drop-out rate due to the competitiveness of the pre-reqs?</p>
<p>Background: Accepted EA OOS, top 2% HS, SAT 2330, MAth II Subject test 740</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>I will say that the acceptance rate is a bit deceiving as the population is self-selecting (i.e. only those who are interested in Comm and have a decent GPA - 3.2+).</p>
<p>This is from the McIntire Blog:
The students admitted thus far achieved an average cumulative UVA GPA at UVA of 3.73 and an average prerequisite GPA of 3.70. They also demonstrated exceptionally strong leadership, community service, and co-curricular activities. The students who were deferred also demonstrated solid academic and co-curricular records, with an average cumulative GPA of 3.47 and prerequisite GPA of 3.45.</p>
<p>KnightsO9 is correct students are self selecting and know if they are a competitive applicant or not. As you can see the GPA to gain acceptance is high. His reference of a 3.2 is quite low for this years incoming class. </p>
<p>Is it doable, yes. Student should get involved in areas that interest them. Don’t do it just to say I need this for McIntire. The students that participate, join, lead, etc. in areas they enjoy are much happier and dedicated to the organizations in which they belong. Some of the prerequisites actually overlap with the area requirements so that certainly is not an issue. Students should also have a backup plan for a major if they do not get into McIntire.
If you are at the point of making a decision for colleges right now make sure there are other majors your son would want to have if he does not get into McIntire.</p>
<p>My 3.2 reference would be for people that think they have a shot. As the average cumulative GPA of deferred students is 3.47, I don’t think it’s a reach to say that some 3.2 students will be accepted.</p>
<p>From what I have heard about last year’s admission to McIntire, many of the deferred ultimately got in. I don’t know whether more were deferred this year than last, though. I am not totally sure the purpose of the deferrals, either, but I think part is to hold some places for qualified students transferring into UVa and part is to require interviews of those applicants with lower GPA’s.</p>
<p>FYI – the average GPA in CLAS is 3.2 and the norm is for GPA’s to go up as students get more used to UVa.</p>
<p>Thanks for the input.</p>
<p>My son has the impression that the required pre-comm classes might be sort of weed-out classes that are intentionally difficult.</p>
<p>They are somewhat difficult but I wouldn’t think of them as “weed-out” classes like pre-med or engineering. Your son is clearly intelligent as evidenced by his academic achievement thus far. He shouldn’t be intimidated by the fact that you have to apply to McIntire as a second year.</p>
<p>And yes, approximately 10% of each years’ McIntire class is transfers.</p>
<p>Based on an information session at the school: The internal acceptance rate tends to be about 60-70%, with the average accepted GPA being a 3.6. If your son does not make it into McIntire, it seems as if he can still study business within the college. Also, it seems like he can exempt a lot of the prereqs. If he took AP Stats, AP Lang, AP Econ, and AP Calc, that’s a lot f prereqs out of the way right there.</p>
<p>Is it true that the tuition for Mcintyre is an additional $5000 per year? If so, my guess is that they would take as many as they can. UVA needs the money.</p>
<p>Last I checked, McIntire cost an extra $3K a year for the last 2 years. UVa has a $5 billion endowment, but much of it is restricted to certain purposes. New Republican-appointed members of the Board of Visitors wanted to institute a “market based approach” to tuition, so they increased McIntire tuition because it had the highest demand. They also have a study underway to consider the market for students, as part of possible changes to UVa’s financial aid program.</p>
<p>If a student does not get accepted to McIntire, many major in economics in the college. Others find other interests as they mature.</p>
<p>We live in Richmond and I could easily be wrong about this - but I believe our newspaper recently reported it’s going up to $5000. However, totally worth the extra cost!</p>
<p>Tuition and fees for next year will be set in a few days. The preliminary estimate was that total costs for a student living on-grounds will increase by $1K for in-state and $2K for out of state students.</p>
<p>Differential tuition actually started this year for third years, not two years ago as charlieschm said. However, they are correct that it is $3K/year. To be honest, this is pretty standard practice for business schools across the country and McIntire is late to the party in terms of instituting it. I have friends at much less regarded business schools who have differential tuition of $1.5K/year.</p>
<p>The money is mostly being used to offer competitive pay for professors.</p>
<p>I’ll address the pre reqs: they are difficult for many. Stat 212 and Comm 201 and 202 (accounting) are hard. That said, many do poorly and still gt in. I’d say aim for a B or above I those classes and you’ll still be competitive. OP: with SATscores like that I’m sure your kid will be fine.</p>