<p>I would suppose that if your grandparent's parents were Native American or something, then you would be 1/8th.. Or maybe I am just pondering aloud :)</p>
<p>Great username dude. Especially since this is the Princeton board.</p>
<p>Focusing away from the AA argument and on your Q, yeah, "normal" people do get admitted.</p>
<p>From what I see he was solid but not phony in his outgoings, wasn't trying to be what he wasn't just for the sake of that golden e-mail in the spring. Ask him about his essays. I guess they were written by the spirit of Mark Twain for him to have gotten in. Good job to him however.</p>
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pretty much no ECs, wasnt really invovled in anything extensively. played a few sports here and there, a few leadership conferences. we mostly partied, unfortunately thats not an EC haha.
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<p>Must have had good essays or something. They must have been the best freakin essays the admissions officers have ever read in their entire lives. I don't want to believe this story. It doesn't give me hope, it's disgusting. </p>
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<p>If you apply early decision, you can be deferred to regular. If you'r applying RD, what do you get deferred to? What the ****?</p>
<p>Butterbattle, why is it "disgusting"?</p>
<p>Probably because he thinks its unfair.</p>
<p>I don't think it's unfair. Obviously something was there (if this story isn't made up) that warranted his acceptance. I think it's nice for them to give a more "normal" kid a chance. Honestly, there are a lot of people out there who do these so-called great things not because they're passionate about them, but because it looks great for them. I applaud him for not taking that path and simply doing what he wanted to do.</p>
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Obviously something was there (if this story isn't made up) that warranted his acceptance.
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<p>Probably, but I don't see that "something" in this thread and if I don't see it, I'm going to treat it as something that most likely doesn't exist, not something that is "obviously" there, but invisible. His friend didn't even know why he got accepted. All I see here is that he's "not top 10%," "not in national honor society because he didnt feel like filling out the form," had "pretty much no ECs, wasnt really invovled in anything extensively," and "mostly partied."</p>
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there are so many valedictorians, captains of sports teams, 1600 SATS, 100s of hours of volunteer work, etc etc. trying to go to the ivies its nice to see an regular guy get in.
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<p>There are so many leaders, hardworkers, and people contributing to the community trying to get in. It’s so nice to see someone who didn’t do **** get in. Do most applicants devote themselves to different activities for their college application? NO. Do most of them learn for their college application? NO. Do most of them play a musical instrument, tutor kids, play football, start a business, raise money for cancer, to cushion their college application? NO. And this kid got accepted over thousands of them! Is that unfair? Yes!</p>
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<p>What the **** is a normal kid? Are the other applicants not normal kids? Are they robots? What you really mean is that it’s nice for them to accept a kid who really didn’t deserve to be accepted. Ivy League is where the best students in the country, no, the world go, IT’S NOT FOR NORMAL KIDS!!!!! DUH!!!!!. It’s for the extraordinary; when they accept a kid with average intelligence and average motivation that should have gone to a regional, state, or community college, that is not something to cheer about, that is an ****ing shame!</p>
<p>I don’t understand. Does it make you guys feel better that this kid got accepted because then you know you have a chance? It doesn’t make me feel better. Every time I see a story like this, I am more convinced that even if I get into a top university, I’ll still run into lazy, stupid, people. </p>
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<p>Yes, and there are people who DO do great things because they are passionate about those things. Those are the people that deserve to be accepted. The Ivy League is not stuck between the two choices you stated. </p>
<p>He wanted to party.</p>
<p>Wow! Thats a lot of justified angst, but I have to agree with butterbattle, this doesnt encourage me or make me happy. It only makes me feel sad, that a person, who didnt really put any work into his application, and a person without any passion for a college that many of us are dying to get into, got in :(</p>
<p>There is no good reason for debate here. The story told by the original poster is almost certainly false. </p>
<p>In the weeks leading up to regular decision notifications, the Princeton board seems to find itself inundated with “flame” posts designed to reflect badly on the school or to start controversial debates. You’ll see this was true last year as well.</p>
<p>The original poster is obviously an individual who enjoys this sort of behavior. Here are the clues that help unmask posters engaging in such tactics.</p>
<p>First, the individual attempts to establish an identity by composing a handful of posts on other boards. Flame posts are most obvious when a first time poster starts a thread with a provocative title. To avoid the obviousness of being a first-timer, the poster will create a false identity. </p>
<p>Always look closely at the other posts generated by the original poster. In this case, you’ll see that there are four threads started by our friend, each of which asks about transfer chances to four different schools. They are all created on the same day. Furthermore, after starting the four threads, the poster seems totally uninterested in the responses he or she has received. In only one of the threads has the poster made any attempt to have a conversation after asking the initial question about transfer chances.</p>
<p>The individual will then wait a short period of time before starting the provocative or highly negative post over here. The point is simply to cause trouble or affect perceptions of the school being attacked.</p>
<p>However, it’s difficult to keep facts straight, so look at the details. I’m afraid this particular poster may have made a rather foolish mistake.</p>
<p>Carlton Banks Quote: "i am from texas, but i goto school out of state"</p>
<p>Carlton Banks Quote: "I am from Charleston, SC and went to a southern boarding school, so i am from the south"</p>
<p>Finally, wouldn’t it be a rather odd coincidence that the original poster would choose the name of a television character from a sitcom so closely associated with Princeton (The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air) if starting this particular thread on the Princeton board were not his ultimate goal?</p>
<p>After having been questioned, some of these posters will then go to the trouble of composing additional posts as a cover. Most however, will not, and you’ll find that the flame thread is the last thread ever seen from that particular poster. You’ll note that this particular poster has posted nothing since starting this thread and adding one additional post to it.</p>
<p>I do believe that predicting whether any individual will be accepted to any particular school is impossible. The members of the admissions committees are weighing far too many factors of which we are unaware. It is relatively safe to say, however, that the individual described by the original poster would have been very unlikely to have been accepted at Princeton unless there are some facts strongly in his favor that haven’t been mentioned. In this case, I feel confident in saying that there is no such person.</p>
<p>PtonGrad2000 - good point. Why the Princeton board seems to attract so many trolls I do not know. You rarely see Princeton advocates going over and starting these kinds of threads on other boards. My guess is that it's similar to the way rivalries work. Princeton really doesn't feel that it has any main rivalry. Harvard has Yale, Stanford has Cal, but that's not really part of the Princeton culture.</p>
<p>BTW guys, where is the RD thread? In years past this board would swarm with the kids applying. Did doing away with ED do away with whatever generated the community here? Oh well. As long as you all don't mind...</p>
<p>lol, okay, thanks PtonGrad2000. I'm immature and I get mad easily. </p>
<p>I was suspicious about this thread, but the OP sounded sincere so I mostly believed it......yeah.</p>
<p>Butterbattle and PtonGrad2000 laid down the line. The OP just got...for a lack of a better word, owned.</p>
<p>wow...if you're 1/10000 native american how do you prove that?!</p>
<p>^ Lol. I haven't done the math, but I think that would have to have started before God created the world.</p>
<p>If we talk about evolution, that would be before people from Asia crossed the bridge from Russia to Alaska. It would certainly be before the Europeans arrived.</p>
<p>Show them your time machine lol.</p>