<p>Hey,</p>
<p>I was admitted to UMich's LSA with a 10K Scholarship (The Jean Fairfax one), and I'm still waiting on the Ross preadmit decision to come out. </p>
<p>I was wondering how hard it is for a freshman applicant to get into Ross for their sophmore year, if they aren't preadmitted? Would I have to kill myself in order to get the grades/ecs to be competitive for a spot at ross? Would I still have time to join a frat and hang out with friends, or would I have to dedicate a large amount of time to academics to get in? </p>
<p>I love UMich but I'm worried that not being preadmitted will hinder my chances of studying business.</p>
<p>Generally, from what I have heard from friends, Ross accepts roughly 1% of those that apply. Not sure how your grades or stats compare. Hope this helps somewhat. Good luck!</p>
<p>1%? That’s not at all accurate TheCollegeBird. Ross admits anywhere between 35% and 40% of Sophomore applicants. </p>
<p>suburbanwanabe, getting into Ross is not a given, but if you put in the effort (you do not have to kil yourself, but you will have to dedicate yourself to the cause), you should be able to manage a 3.6 GPA, which is usually good enough to get you into Ross.</p>
<p>I would make sure to only enroll in Michigan if you would be happy majoring in another subject in LSA. I would not recommend going to Michigan if your only purpose is to join Ross.</p>
<p>^Everything Alexandre said is spot on. The essays are ECs are just as important as grades. Strike a generous balance between the 3 and you’ll be in great shape.</p>
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<p>This 1% you heard of is from other universities. IE. If someone tries to transfer from MSU to UMich Ross. As Alexandre said, it much easier to get in if you actually go to UMich.</p>
<p>Acceptance rate for Preferred Admits is about 16% of those already admitted to U-M and for Regular Admits (which is what you’re asking about) its around 40%. In case you were wondering.</p>
<p><a href=“Bachelor of Business Administration | Michigan Ross”>http://www.bus.umich.edu/Admissions/BBA/BBA_Class_Profiles.pdf</a></p>
<p>The 1% could also come from “ugh dude it’s sooooo hard to get into ross they only take like 1% of kids that apply duuuude” ;)</p>
<p>Anyway, getting in is very doable. 3.6 is good enough, but higher than that is of course better. In your freshman year, a 3.8 or 3.9 is not unheard of, and you seem qualified enough to be able to achieve that. I’ve achieved in the Ross acceptance-range GPA without killing myself at all, and I ain’t no scholarship student, haha.</p>
<p>I’ve seen 3.4’s get in and a 3.9 get rejected. The essays and extracurriculars really do matter a lot. Try to hold some sort of leadership position or at least something where you take on responsibility and show initiative. Those are the types of people they look for.</p>
<p>^ Was the 3.9 not actively involved in clubs? Do you know if he/she was really set on Ross, or just applied as an option?</p>
<p>I just don’t imagine many students who would go to Michigan as a Ross hopeful, get a 3.9 GPA, and don’t get in because they blew off the extra curricular part. I mean unless he bombed his essays/interview…</p>
<p>I had very low GPA and was accepted. All three parts are equally as important. Grades are absolutely not everything for this application. I actually think that essays and ECs are MORE important than grades because they are correlated (you write about your ECs in your essays). Also anyone can get good grades if they take easy classes and only 12-15 credits per semester.</p>
<p>He was somewhat involved and obviously I don’t know how his essays were, but I think it’s just a testament to how, one, Ross admissions are at least a bit of a crapshoot. Nothing’s a sure thing but you just need to do everything necessary to prepare. And two, how they really do value a complete, well-rounded application and know that successful businessmen come from more than just a high GPA.</p>
<p>How would you say ross is for investment banking? Do a lot of kids manage to get jobs/internships coming out of ross?</p>
<p>Also, would you say that UC Berkeley haas would be harder to be admitted to than UMich Ross?</p>
<p>Personally I’ve met a friend here that interned at Goldman after their sophomore and junior years. And someone who worked at Deloitte after freshman year in LSA. Honestly, Ross recruiting better than it deserves to be. Which is a good thing.</p>
<p>After bonuses and regular salary, Ross kids make the same if not more than money than Engineering kids for less work. I know plenty of sophomores/juniors in Ross, they say the coursework is quite easy. For example most classes, don’t involve calculus. Whereas calculus is used is almost every Engineering class. In addition, there is a fair amount of GPA inflation. I’ve had classes here where the exam median was between 70-80% and the professor didn’t curve it.</p>
<p>That said, it’s easier to transfer between LSA-Engineering is a lot easier than LSA-ROSS in terms of competition. However, the coursework will be harder to do so, but still doable.</p>
<p>But getting into Ross isn’t so hard since most kids take LSA distribution requirements like
Psych, Sociology, Comm, English, etc. to get admitted.</p>
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<p>Same. This guy was actually in CoE though.</p>
<p>I just sent in my application this past weekend.</p>
<p>From what I hear, from a very reliable source, the essay accounts for about 60-70% of the application now. Grades aren’t as heavily weighted as before and as long as you have higher than a 3.0, you have a chance of getting in with a great essay.</p>
<p>OP, hopefully you got your answer 4/1 on Ross Pre-admit, my daughter and her friends all got an email saying stay tuned until the end of April.</p>
<p>If you got pre admit, congrats. If not, here is what I know. There are about 6 students that apply to Ross for Sophomore admittance for every spot available, and probably another 6 students who want into Ross who don’t bother applying because they know they can’e get in. A colleague of mine graduated from IU recently and said Kelley was full of transfers from Michigan who could not get into Ross.</p>
<p>For our family, the decision is simple, D has direct admit into two other very good business schools. If she does not get pre-admit to Ross, she is not going to Michigan. It’s $25K per year more than her other options and we are not paying that money so she can have the opportunity to investigate transfers a year form now.</p>
<p>^That’s probably a very good decision unless your daughter wants to end up in one of the top IBanking firms which only accept applicants from the elite business schools. If she is into marketing or consulting, going to the #3 vs. #10 school will not make nearly as drastic of a difference.</p>
<p>“There are about 6 students that apply to Ross for Sophomore admittance for every spot available”</p>
<p>Ummm… What? Ross has a 40% acceptance rate for Sophomore admittance. By my math, that’s 2.5 students for every spot :p</p>
<p><a href=“Bachelor of Business Administration | Michigan Ross”>http://www.bus.umich.edu/Admissions/BBA/BBA_Class_Profiles.pdf</a></p>
<p>Luckily, doesn’t effect me. Preferred admit!</p>
<p>That’s correct Pat1120. I think orngblu misunderstood. The 6 applicants for each spot stat sounds like preadmits. Roughly 16% of preadmits are admitted. The Freshman transfer into Ross acceptance rate is in the 35%-40% range. Still not great, but not bad either.</p>
<p>What can freshman applicants to ross do to boost their chances? Also, will taking honors LSA classes (while consequently risking a worse GPA) help?</p>