<p>how hard it is to get into haas? what if you don't get in? thanks!</p>
<p>Pretty hard. Of the 447 Berkeley continuing sophomores who apply to Haas, 263, or about 60% got in. That means that 40% who applied did not get in. Also look at the kinds of grades necessary to get in. Notice that these are not high school grades, these are your grades for your first 2 years at Berkeley. </p>
<p>Keep in mind that that's just talking about those who apply. Plenty of other people want to go to Haas but don't even apply because their grades are so low that they know they won't get in. Let's face it. If you have a 2.1, you know you're not going to get in, so you're not going to apply. </p>
<p>Hence the 'true' reject rate, if you were to include all those people who wanted to get in but didn't even apply is significantly greater than 40%. </p>
<p>What do you do if you don't get in? You have to find another major. So that's the risk you take in coming to Berkeley hoping to get into Haas - there is a significant chance that you won't make it and have to major in something you don't really want.</p>
<p>shiittt! i don't see how anybody can take this risk? people are too smart for me!</p>
<p>Well, until this year, my friend said USC had the same system, which is that you applied after two years, and you were admitted or rejected. If you are serious about undergrad business, perhaps it's worth the risk.</p>
<p>Personally, I think Haas should start offering guaranteed admission to some incoming freshman. Maybe not fill all their slots that way, but certainly should give some highly promising high school students guaranteed admission. That, combined with instate tuition, might make Berkeley more competitive in getting students who might otherwise have gone to some other place like Wharton. Such students might still opt to go to Wharton, but it would at least give Berkeley more of a fighting chance.</p>
<p>However, as it stands right now, you have to prepare yourself for the possibility that you won't get into Haas, so you should be content with studying something else.</p>
<p>Would would people typically major in if they dont get in? Expecially, with doing all that preq work then getting screwed over. I am assuming something related, but what?</p>
<p>Economics (which is capped) and Political Economies of Industrial Societies are two possibilities.</p>
<p>Fallback for BusAd is commonly econ (capped)
Fallback for econ (capped) is commonly PEIS.</p>
<p>PEIS now accepts everyone who applies for the major, BUT you must declare PEIS before you begin your 4th semester at Cal.</p>
<p>how is Economics and PEIS? are they good? what's the difference between them and Haas?</p>
<p>Economics is straight up economics. Haas has one focus, which is business administration. PEIS studies . . . well, an interesting combination of economics with some political science and international area studies. Here are the websites where you can get more elaborate explanations, and hopefully other people will respond with answers.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.haas.berkeley.edu/Undergrad/%5B/url%5D">http://www.haas.berkeley.edu/Undergrad/</a></p>
<p>Theres nothing wrong with econ, but those are pretty terrible alternatives in terms of relation if you wanted to originally do business. </p>
<p>The econ classes are also so much harder than the business classes cause they qualitative. The hass classes tend to have other things like group projects and presentations which makes it easier. This is just my rough take on this.</p>
<p>How do you figure? Do you realize that most businesspeople did not do business as an undergraduate major? In fact, the business administration degree has a very particular purpose, and many employers would probably prefer someone who was academically challenged with something like engineering, philosophy, or market know-how in econ than some slacker in the business program for many positions (besides particular employers for particular positions).</p>
<p>"many employers would probably prefer someone who was academically challenged with something like engineering, philosophy, or market know-how in econ than some slacker in the business program for many positions (besides particular employers for particular positions)."</p>
<p>According to the Career Center statistics, 85% of BusAd students have found jobs 6 months after graduation- the highest percentage compared to any other major.</p>
<p>It just seems like one would just be funneling to something else thats a bit too different. Its like being an intended bio major doing chemistry instead. I just saying it would be better to have more related options like how molecular and cell biology is to integrative biology. So with business there could be more related alternatives like a specific major in finance, marketing, accounting, and entrepreneurship. They do have a bunch of random majors that few people major in like African American, religious studies, classics and etc. It would make more sense to have other things that more people would be interested in.</p>
<p>Unlimitedx where can I find the statistics? It would be interesting to see other majors.</p>
<p>This is the major statistics page</p>
<p><a href="http://career.berkeley.edu/Major/major.stm%5B/url%5D">http://career.berkeley.edu/Major/major.stm</a></p>
<p>Haas acceptance rate for transfer students like me: 8%</p>
<p>As a future econ major I feel like people look at econ as the Haas fallback, which kind of sucks because I just prefer econ a lot more than business. Any current Cal students know if my thoughts are true?</p>
<p>Economics is much harder than business, unfortunately.</p>
<p>Some people think that economics is merely for "business rejects" while I know many people with 3.7+ GPAs in economics who did not apply to business and who could have gotten in, if they had applied.</p>
<p>unlimitedx: I will have to agree with DRab there.</p>
<p>Even graduate business schools tend to prefer those that did NOT major in business as an undergrad: clean slate, if you will. It's just like how law schools do not want students to major in "legal studies."</p>
<p>And the majors DRab stated are also more difficult.</p>
<p>ucbhi:</p>
<p>Well, no offense, but those people have no idea what they are talking about. I've taken both business and economics courses, and yeah economics courses are generally more difficult. Of course the curve in Haas is somewhat intimidating, but economics is much more difficult as a subject area.</p>
<p>I mentioned that econ classes are so much harder cause there heavily quantitative. Theres just so much more math and theoretical graphs involoved. Theres often more easy points with business classes because most of the time they take into account attendance, projects, presenations, and more homework. I also take classes in both departments.</p>