How hard would it be for an out of stater to go to uc berkeley?

<p>I'm from NY.</p>

<p>My SAT score is a 2260 and my cumulative GPA is an 85 (we don't use the 1.0 - 4.0) scale. My GPA is low due to certain circumstances that my guidance counselor is willing to explain. I have decent ECs and I'm sure I can get good recommendation papers. I'm assuming that there are more factors needed in answering my question, but I'm trying to be as terse as possible.</p>

<p>I'm also a minority (parents from Mali). So, yeah, based on my little tidbit above, how would my chances be?</p>

<p>UCs don't look at recommendations, and don't care all that much about extra-curriculars. They will convert your GPA to the UC scale - I'd recommend looking at the web site to get an idea of what yours would be and how it would compare to the average. Out-of-state admission is really tough, so if it's not above a 4.0, you'll probably have a hard time unless your circumstance is really extenuating.</p>

<p>On the other hand, you don't even have a shot if you don't apply, so I'd say go for it. Good luck!</p>

<p>The UCs don't want recommendation letters. I applied.</p>

<p>The UCs have eliminated affirmative action, so being a minority won't help. Go ahead and apply, but don't get your hopes up.</p>

<p>suavesolicitor:</p>

<p>UCB: Slight Reach (out of state)</p>