How High of TOEFL is enough?

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<p>Hello everyone. i got back my TOEFL scores about two days ago, and they were the followings:
Reading: 29/30
Listening: 29/30
Speaking: 17/30 (ouch!)
writing: 27/30</p>

<p>total: 104/120.</p>

<p>I'm a permenant resident and I came here 1.5 years ago from Hong Kong. I'm looking at schools such as UVa(instate), W&M(instate), Michigan. I have been admitted to Wisconsin-Madison if it matters. and also will the speaking part hurt my chances? </p>

<p>SAT:
Cr:570
M:750
W: 620 (essay:9)</p>

<p>GPA: 3.83 as of Junior year.</p>

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<p>most of the schools say you have to score at least 100/120... so you should be fine, TOEFL isn't considered as a factor for admission I think... it's just to make sure you are able to communicate, etc. </p>

<p>anyway you're a perminent resident, attending english speaking school (I guess).. you're fine</p>

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<p>you should be fine. no school i know of requires more than 100 points on the iBT</p>

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<p>thanks for the replies. I'm really worried, especially about my speaking part. i can speak quite fluently though. 17 ha.</p>

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<p>your total score is 102, not 104....
102 is really enough,, so dont be worried about this.</p>

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<p>I heard Matt saying that MIT does discriminates between 90, 100, 110, 120.</p>

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<p>MIT does for those who substitute TOEFL for SAT. Otherwise, its just a measure to make sure you can communicate.</p>

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<p>but some schools require minimum of score in certain sections
i dont remeber which one ex) at least 20 in listening</p>

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<p>@ barlum:</p>

<p>LSE: 107
Kings College: 109</p>

<p>They are pretty severe about it in the UK ;) Not in the US though. Most of them don't even give a limit and your other parts are quite good.</p>

<p>The speaking section of the iBt is crap. They don't measure how good you speak but how fast you come up with an answer to stupid questions like "what do you miss most if you are away from home" ... hello ?! I want to study abroad - I am not homesick...</p>

<p>Yes I miss my mommy and my daddy and don't know how to live without them. yadayada</p>

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<p>I had to answer the very same question :)
I only spoke like 20 seconds at most at this one and I still ended up with a very high speaking score.</p>

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<p>Are we long lost twins?</p>

<p>My scores:
toefl:104
SAT:1940</p>

<p>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>

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<p>OMG! youknowme which colleges are you applying?</p>

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<p>i'm sorry. The speaking part should be 19/30.</p>

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<p>@youknowme:</p>

<p>The TOEFL is fine for any college in the US. (Many even waive it if you score above 650 on the CR section) Your SAT is low for the Ivy League, but not too bad for the coming ups. If your essays and ECs are great, you should find a school in the top 20.</p>

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<p>Does anyone know when they post the scores for the Dec 15th test?</p>

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<p>15 business days after the test date. Do the math.</p>

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<p>TOEFL PBT: 653 out of 677
Listening Comprehension: 61/68
Structure/Written Expression 68/68
Reading Comprehension: 67/67</p>

<p>I am applying for Ivy League. Would be effective? How much?</p>