<p>Hi, i'm a british student who is planning to attend LSE but would want to live/work in the states after i graduate. What i wanted to know is how well know/highly regarded is LSE amgonst americans?</p>
<p>Is it regarded as well as Ivies/top 25?</p>
<p>What we think doesn’t matter. What an employer based in the UK or elsewhere who hires you and then sends you to work in the US office thinks matters. After that, your work experience (not where you studied) will matter.</p>
<p>If you are concerned about grad school, an undergraduate degree from the LSE is perfectly fine.</p>
<p>It is difficult for non-US residents/citizens studying abroad to find jobs in the US, particularly in this market. It is much easier for international students studying in top US universities to find jobs in the US because (1) US companies recruit on campus and (2) international students with F-1 visas typically have an extra year of practical training which facilitates their intigration in the workplace. </p>
<p>[Optional</a> Practical Training - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optional_Practical_Training]Optional”>Optional Practical Training - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>LSE has a strong reputation in some markets (particularly finance in NYC), but even then, it would not be quite on par with Ivy League or other top US universities. Not that it would matter because US firms will not recruit at the LSE campus for jobs in the US market, nor are students at LSE eligible to work in the US. It is obviously possible to find a job in the US, but the odds are not as good.</p>
<p>It’s more difficult for non-US residents/citizens studying abroad to find jobs in the US, but this must be qualified. It all comes down to sponsorship. If you’re a highly qualified applicant at a top university outside the US then you’ll have more opportunities than a similarly qualified applicant at an average university in the US. Employers are looking for quality and will hire accordingly. I know plenty of people at Oxbridge/LSE who went to work in the US. Another option is to work for a firm in London and then transfer to their US-based branch once you’ve established a solid reputation.</p>
<p>LSE has a very strong reputation in academia and across nearly all markets that touch on the social sciences. It’s particularly strong in NYC and Washington, DC. Any claim that the LSE isn’t on par with Ivies or other top US universities is simply wrong. The LSE’s strategic partner in the US is Columbia and it should be viewed as roughly equivalent (for the social sciences, of course). US firms do recruit at the LSE campus for jobs in the US market and LSE students are eligible to work in the US. Any statement to the contrary is false.</p>
<p>Yes LSE grads can work in the US if they get a job that will provide them with the work visa necessary. However, the possibility of any one individual finding that kind of job right out of university with their BA or BS degree is vanishingly small. This has nothing to do with the qualifications of those students. It has everything to do with the byzantine intricacies of the US work visa process. For fun reading on that issue, google for H-1B visa.</p>
<p>"It’s more difficult for non-US residents/citizens studying abroad to find jobs in the US, but this must be qualified. It all comes down to sponsorship. If you’re a highly qualified applicant at a top university outside the US then you’ll have more opportunities than a similarly qualified applicant at an average university in the US. Employers are looking for quality and will hire accordingly. I know plenty of people at Oxbridge/LSE who went to work in the US. Another option is to work for a firm in London and then transfer to their US-based branch once you’ve established a solid reputation.</p>
<p>LSE has a very strong reputation in academia and across nearly all markets that touch on the social sciences. It’s particularly strong in NYC and Washington, DC. Any claim that the LSE isn’t on par with Ivies or other top US universities is simply wrong. The LSE’s strategic partner in the US is Columbia and it should be viewed as roughly equivalent (for the social sciences, of course). US firms do recruit at the LSE campus for jobs in the US market and LSE students are eligible to work in the US. Any statement to the contrary is false."</p>
<p>You posted a very subjective post with no firsthand or quantifiable evidence. Washington University offers exchange and other programs with Oxford. Let me know if you think WUSTL has the equivalent reputation of Oxford by this metric. I know at the elite consulting firms, LSE is HARDLY an equivalent to the ivies (and I know this because I work at one and do recruiting). And they do not recruit at LSE for US Positions. You should qualify your statement by stating less prestige and reputation driven consulting firms might hire at LSE for US positions. The top firms also sure as hell would not hire an LSEer over a target ivy graduate (or strong non-target undergraduate for that matter) for a US position.</p>
<p>Thx Alexandre, your advice is really professional:)</p>
<p>You want quantifiable, consider the LSEs global ranking in social sciences. The LSE is ranked #4 for Economics, #4 for Politics and International Relations, #7 for Law, and #6 for Accounting and Finance.</p>
<p>Source: [New</a> QS World University Rankings by Subject: Social Sciences - Topuniversities](<a href=“http://www.topuniversities.com/new-qs-world-university-rankings-subject-social-sciences/]New”>http://www.topuniversities.com/new-qs-world-university-rankings-subject-social-sciences/)</p>
<p>You want firsthand, consider that I too work at a top (as you would say, prestige and reputation driven) consulting firm. I was recruited for a US position while at the LSE. Nearly all top consulting firms and investment banks recruit at the LSE, though some exclusively hire for European offices. Many hire for US positions and through talking with recruiters, Oxbridge/LSE are viewed as on par with top Ivies + Wharton. I also went to Stanford and recruiters were equally if not more interested in my experience at the LSE.</p>
<p>Your WUSTL example fails because were not talking about a simple student exchange. Plenty of average universities have exchanges with great universities, which doesnt mean much. The LSE and Columbia (along with Sciences Po) are STRATEGIC PARTNERS, meaning that they are aligned in research and student/faculty exchange across the board. The LSE and Columbia (and Sciences Po) see themselves as peer institutions.</p>
<p>lol… someone got owned…
nice job ANOBSERVATION!</p>
<p>LOL. I wouldn’t put too much stock in those QS subject rankings. They list the University of Illinois-Chicago (UIC) among the top 100 schools for law. UIC doesn’t even have a law school.</p>
<p>As I’ve stated ANobservation, I have first hand experience as a consultant and recruiter at MBB (McKinsey to be exact). Hell, I’ve even done recruiting at Stanford for McKinsey also, being a Stanford alum. Yet, as a recruiter, I’ve never heard of company execs viewing LSE and Stanford in the same light. But who knows, I’m sure you’re pulling this from somewhere. So don’t take offense if I completely refuse to acknowledge your opinions. I also have access to the McKinsey network to see if any first year analysts were hired from LSE to the US directly immediately after their bachelors. I can’t seem to find any.</p>
<p>But to prove me wrong and since you claim to work at another high level consulting firm, why don’t you cite some linkedin profiles of first year analysts for an elite consulting who’ve moved from LSE to the US immediately after graduation from LSE with a bachelor’s? That is after all what we are arguing about. It would make a lot of sense for MBB to hire an LSE grad, sponsor their visa, and potentially pay a hefty relocation bonus after all over hiring a top US university grad. Anyways, this little exercise should not be hard if you really do work at one and do know analysts. Or hell, find me a job posting from MBB or a booz level firm citing recruitment to a US office for LSE grads.</p>
<p>Even if it does happens, you still need to secure a work visa with your sponsorship from a top consulting firm like McKinsey. Right now the H-1B is a lottery … the odds are good but no lottery is 100%.</p>
<p>@ANOBSERVATION
No offense, LSE is great, but my personal experiences prove the opposite side. I’m from Asia travelling around the world, and I’ve never ever met any ppl who will put LSE ahead of HYPSM+oxbrige+Columbia (even in the UK).
When I did my interviews in US, ppl were much more interested in my previous exps in Asia. The resaon is that, ppl are always curious in foreign countries, definitely not because they thought my credentials were equivalent to the counterparts in US.</p>
<p>Yeah LSE is a great school, but i doubt it has that kind of pull. I also agree that it seems unlikely that many US employers would go out of their way to recruit there, considering that the vast majority of elite universities are probably in the U.S. </p>
<p>The U.S. may not be elite at producing many things, but world-class higher education is certainly one of them.</p>
<p>I love the QS rankings. Any ranking that has Michigan and Cornell at #14 and #15 in the World (#10 and #11 in the US) is great in my book! ;)</p>
<p>That being said, the QS ranking, like any other global ranking should be taken with a grain of salt. The QS is a British publication, which explains why 4 of the world’s top 10 universities are British. </p>
<p>Clearly, the QS rankings has flaws. For example, according to QS, MIT is ranked #3 in the World in Medicine (ahead of Johns Hopkins) and Caltech #11 (ahead of UCSF and WUSTL) in the World in Medicine, yet MIT and Caltech have no medical schools. UCSF and WUSTL, top 5 US Medical schools are not ranked among the top 10 US medical schools according to QS. </p>
<p>In Electrical Engineering, Harvard, Penn and Yale are all ranked ahead of UIUC, a concensus top 5 EE program in the US. NYU and Dartmouth, both Engineering lightweights, also do very well. In Chemical Engineering, Minnesota and Wisconsin are considered to 5 programs in the US, yet QS does not even rank tham among the top 35 in the World.</p>
<p>There are many such flaws in the QS rankings. I definitely agree that in Economics and Political Science circles, as well as in major Financial markets (such as NYC, London, Frankfurt etc…), LSE has a very strong raputation, one that certainly rivals some of the Ivies (Columbia and Penn) and other elite US universities. But as an overall university, in the eyes of most US companies and corporate recruiters outside of Wall Street, LSE’s reputation does not usually match that of the Ivies and several other US elites. Even according to British rankings, LSE does not do that well; the Times barely ranks LSE among the top 50 while QS ranks LSE out of the top 50 altogether.</p>
<p>LSE is regarded worse than LSE in the States and in Europe according to a recent ranking of business prestige (undergrad and MBA) published by the New York Times and conducted by the French surveying company Emerging.</p>
<p>[Education</a> - Image - NYTimes.com](<a href=“Education - Image - NYTimes.com”>Education - Image - NYTimes.com)</p>
<p>LSE falls behind all of the Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Northwestern, Duke, Berkeley, UCLA, UVA, UNC, CalTech, Johns Hopkins, and even Michigan State LOL!</p>
<p>I always thought LSE was at least on par with UPenn (CAS and maybe even Wharton) and Columbia.</p>
<p>It seems that the most highly regarded business school, at least in the NYTimes ranking, is HEC paris. Although i’m sure this would be different if Wharton was its own separate business school like HEC Paris, rather than being a part of Penn.</p>
<p>Penn and Columbia are much, much stronger universities than LSE overall. If you look at research output and student quality, its not even close.</p>
<p>@goldenboy Thats because Penn and Columbia are teach loads of subjects whereas LSE is focused mainly on social sciences (and related). If you look at rankings for Economics and Social Sciences, LSE is on par or even better than Penn/Columbia</p>