<p>In applying to top colleges, how important is it that someone is involved in sports in HS? If you have an SAT in the 2100-2200 range, high class rank (top 5% or better), extracurriculars (excluding sports), and great recommendations, does NOT being involved in sports really hurt your chances of being accepted? </p>
<p>Not everyone enjoys sports or does well in it. Does it hurt your college application if you're going to try for the top colleges?</p>
<p>Thanks for any input.</p>
<p>Sports aren't everything. It doesn't hurt to have sports but in order to get into the more selective colleges, you're going to need something to catch their eye. Having good EC's will help.</p>
<p>It is not being involved in sports which is important, it is being involved in something, having a passion and showing it. You can be into band, debate, dance, theatre, etc., just be involved in something you love and share that facet of your personality with the adrep.</p>
<p>"It is not being involved in sports which is important, it is being involved in something, having a passion and showing it. You can be into band, debate, dance, theatre, etc., just be involved in something you love and share that facet of your personality with the adrep."</p>
<p>That is good to know! I fogot to mention that along with the good grades, SAT scores, etc. there is a very high involvment with band, (marching and concert), president of chess club, and that kind of thing. Whew!</p>
<p>I believe that the lack of sports can hurt at some of the smaller LACs, as they have teams to fill. Harvard and Stanford recruit their athletes, so they aren't going to be looking for their quarterbacks and top runners from their regular applicants.
If you are looking at smaller schools where they may only have around 300 freshman, the intention to play on a team, even if you're in the middle of the pack, can give you a tip over the non-athlete.</p>
<p>Yes, a recruited athlete is a whole different story, and ASAP is right, some athletes who are not quite recruited, could play for their LAC and that would help them! But there are thousands of varsity athletes across the country who are not recruited and are not going to play for their university. They get EC "points" for their interest & involvement, but the musician or theatre student or the debater can get the same points for the same level of involvement....heck be a polka dancer or an accordian player, but just be passionate and involved and interesting......and show that side of yourself in your applications. Fall not into the trap of writing the essay you think they want to read, write the essay that shows YOU! </p>
<p>Check out this post on another part of the board:</p>
<p>Yes, the three factors you mention are an issue, but, on the positive side, this situation gives you a chance to really take risks and give it all you've got on the rest of the application. (I assume you'll be applying to Caltech/MIT as your first choice reaches.) Since, realistically, the only hope is to win someone's heart, the advice I would give is: try to write something really beautiful and insightful for the essays (easier said than done, I know). Talk about why you love science and what you would bring to Caltech. But the key is that the quality of the output should not resemble that of a high school assignment ("I love science because... I would bring to Caltech enthusiasm and a strong sense of personal responsibility..."). The bar is somewhat higher than that. Since in all writing, the key is to think about the audience and the goal, it helps to remember that here your audience is a Caltech admissions officer, a Caltech professor, and a Caltech student (the three people who will read your application) and the goal is to knock them over. That's not that easy, but you're helped by the fact that many applicants (often, numerically the strongest applicants) phone it in and submit something formulaic, docile, and typical.</p>
<p>So try to imagine that your job is to write really incredibly well (I always think of the fictional speechwriters Sam and Toby on the West Wing ;-) and try to write what they would write if you hired them. Imagine that you're composing a symphony, a delicate and perfectly constructed kind of work. Aim to get your audience on their feet applauding at the end. There are a lot of good guides on writing, and you should read them for technical guidance... but my feeling is really that a major component of how good the product will be is how seriously you approach the endeavor. From the essays I've read, it's pretty clear to me that most people dash off something in an hour or two. They either aren't aiming to impress or don't realize how hard it is to produce an inspiring (as opposed to insipid) piece of writing. Once you avoid those mistakes, and set about doing this for real, the only remaining ingredient is courage. It is no surprise that one sees lots of very similar essays because almost everyone is doing the same boring, cautious dance -- trying not to say anything that could be seen in the wrong light while saying all the right things. If you shed a little of that caution and talk more honestly, that honesty will be appreciated. There are few things more beautiful than a real human voice breaking out of the page, and I'm personally willing to ignore a lot of flaws in someone who has enough courage to produce that kind of essay.</p>
<p>My feeling from my conversations with the other Ben at MIT is that especially with our friends in the east, that sort of thing can make a lot of difference and can go a long way toward remedying other deficiencies. At Caltech, we're a little more rigorous on the numbers side (or so it has seemed to many people, apparently) but my guess is that a lot of people on the committee would be willing to go to the mat for someone who won them over despite the lack of traditional strengths. I know I would.</p>
<p>I realize that your question was about other schools to consider. And they're very important to think about. But I'd take this situation as a challenge. I think it can be done, if it's truly your dream to come here. (That isn't just babble. I wouldn't say the same if your stats were a little different.) With the right sort of approach, it is possible -- somewhere in the Platonic realm of yet unfinished things, there floats the application that'll get you into your dream school. Now try to produce it. Good luck." </p>
<p>This should give you some thoughts about how to formulate your essays.</p>