<p>How are Cornell's Science and pre-med programs? Are they good and well-reocgnized to have on ur CV when applying to a good Med School?</p>
<p>Any top school is going to be great for premed. It's up to you to find a school you'd fit in at.</p>
<p>There is no pre-med program. (?)</p>
<p>there is no 1 official pre-med program/major at cornell...</p>
<p>but the courses one can take are tough and will prepare you...</p>
<p>med school admissions are competitive so dont think that just b/c cornell is one of the better science ivy leagues that you'll get in to any med school you'd like...</p>
<p>So Cornell IS one of the better Ivy Leagues for science programs?</p>
<p>Yes, very much so. Everyone would at least say that Cornell has the best engineering in the Ivies, and has top programs in the sciences. Among the Ivies, the schools known for science are Cornell, Harvard, and Columbia. Yale is sort of there in bio, and princeton is good with the theoretical stuff, but not known otherwise. Penn has a decent program, but not top for the sciences. And Brown and Dartmouth aren't even on the map.</p>
<p>But honestly, there are so many great schools, and for undergrad, it doesn't matter that much where you go, especially if you're going to get more education after. The school you choose really is all about fit.</p>
<p>And as for science majors, there are a lot at Cornell and Harvard who really do like science. At Columbia, a lot of science majors tend to go into other things, like finance.</p>
<p>but even if u say Brown doesnt have a top science program, they have the highest acceptance rate into med school and the highest percentage getting accepted into first choice med schools... which is pretty big i believe</p>
<p>just my 1.9898989 cents</p>
<p>Which is why asking which school has the best science program and which school has the best premed program are two different things.</p>
<p>Acceptance rate to med school basically follows selectivity. Brown doesn't have the highest acceptance rate to med school. Harvard, Yale, and Princeton do (somewhere in the 90%+ range). Brown's acceptance rate is 81% approx. Cornell's acceptance rate sits in the mid 70's usually. And so on. But, that comes out of the quality of the student body, not the quality of the school. </p>
<p>The difference in science programs is real (in terms of the quality of faculty, the caliber of research, the contribution to academia, etc.). Cornell is definitely one of the better Ivies in that regard.</p>
<p>Norcalguy -- Do you know if all of the quoted med school numbers exclude osteopathic medicine, or is it possible that some of the schools include them in their numbers?</p>
<p>No such thing as a pre-med program. All the top 10-15 USNEWS schools are about the same.</p>
<p>Well if you want a view from a current Cornellian on a the premed track, I'd say that the course load is pretty doable and it will surely prepare you for what you want to do :)</p>
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<p>I don't. In fact, I've brought up this issue before as a reason why one simply shouldn't use med school acceptance rates. Cornell clearly confines its acceptance data to only allopathic schools. However, if a college really wants to boost its acceptance rate, it can count applicants who got into osteopathic schools, Caribbean schools, European med schools, etc. as "accepted applicants."</p>
<p>Somebody posted this elsewhere:</p>
<p>"I know that Cornell U has an especially bad reputation for weeding out pre-meds, and many that made it into med school might not have made it had they gone to Cornell."</p>
<p>Cornell has over 15K students (more pre-meds than a small university). Of course they're gonna weed-out people.</p>
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Cornell has over 15K students (more pre-meds than a small university). Of course they're gonna weed-out people.
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<p>I'm not certain Cornell weeds out students any more than other schools do. If a student gets bad grades in required courses, of course they are going to have difficulty being accepted to medical school. But nothing about Cornell impacts that outcome -- if a student learns the material they will do fine in their classes.</p>
<p>That's not necessary true if an average in science classes is a "C" (compared to other schools where it can be higher).</p>
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That's not necessary true if an average in science classes is a "C"
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<p>Baseless myth. Not one class across the campus last year had a median grade less than a B-.</p>
<p>The average isn't a C....might want to check your sources. </p>
<p>In my years the curves/medians for the pre-med courses I took were:</p>
<p>Orgo I and II: B-
Biochem 331 and 332: B+
Physics 101: B+ (this was the median)
Physiology (BioAP 311): said he would curve to a B-, median ended up being a B+
Microbio: B+ (median)</p>
<p>No C's there!!!</p>
<p>Yeah, I was thinking of general chem classes at USC. The average there is a C/C+ (it was a C when I took them). It clearly states in the syllabus:</p>
<p>Apparently, at Cornell the average is higher.</p>
<p>In all honesty...I think the hardest part with the science classes at Cornell is dealing with the curve, if there is one...especially when you're trying to get that coveted A in orgo. The exam mean could be a 66 but the standard deviation is an 18...so to get an A- you have to have an 84 on the exam.</p>