<p>I am pretty much decided on ED to Penn; I live in Philly and I am attending the summer academy here (application-based). I just want to know if SEAS is good enough to find a job or something..Still not sure which major yet. </p>
<p>In a word, YES.</p>
<p>Take a look at the Undergraduate Career Plans Survey Reports for SEAS for the Classes of 2007-2013:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/reports.php”>http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/reports.php</a></p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>I have another question. My ECs, well some of them at least, the better ones, are not science or engineering focused, like tutoring for kids outside of school for free as well as a kid in my class for free, and other music stuff like concert choir. However, I took the math 2 and bio e subject test so maybe those will help but I did terrible (in terms of ivy standards). Am I at a disadvantage? Will I be able to take some sort of English or liberal arts along with engineering at Penn? </p>
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<p>Of course! All Penn undergrads (including SEAS, Wharton, and Nursing) take liberal arts classes, including English! And in addition to the College of Arts and Sciences (home of liberal arts departments at Penn), you also can take classes in Penn’s other undergraduate schools (Wharton and Nursing), as well as in most of Penn’s graduate schools (Annenberg School for Communication, School of Design, Graduate School of Education, School of Social Policy and Practice, and even the Law School!). It’s Penn’s famous “One University” policy.</p>
<p>Okay cool, I’m totally psyched lol. </p>
<p>God, the Biomed Academy Program at Penn is making me not wanting to major in BME. The labs and journal articles…I am thinking about CompSci (I am good at math and computers but I don’t have much of a clue with coding) and even maybe English. </p>
<p>Can anyone tell me about English and CompSci or any other good degrees (what you do in class) that may fit me at Penn or just in general? I prefer SEAS. I want to enjoy my job and I don’t think BME will. </p>
<p>What is the difference between CompEngi and CompSci?</p>
<p>And other question.
What’s the difference between CAS Biology and SEAS Bioengineering. I hate labs, soo. I want a fun major with a good job prospect after I graduate.</p>
<p>Students in SEAS do well in the job market. I think the average SEAS student had more than 2 job offers last year.</p>
<p>Also keep in mind that the admission rate to SEAS is somewhat lower than for Penn overall, so sharpen your pencil and make sure you have a great application!</p>
<p>I thought SEAS was higher and CAS was lower than SEAS.
I need a major that I can switch out of or change slightly if I don’t like. I heard that Bioengineering for undergrad is stupid.
I might do Econ or something in CAS…I’m almost clueless right now. Somebody has to convince me for Econ or Engineering or something. </p>
<p>SEAS acceptance rate is lower than CAS.
It is usually easier to move from SEAS to CAS than from CAS to SEAS.</p>
<p>Early Decision too? From googling, CAS seems to be lower. </p>
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I can’t speak about the comparative ease of interschool transfers between CAS and SEAS, but the freshman acceptance rate of SEAS is generally a bit HIGHER than that of CAS, as well as the overall Penn acceptance rate. Of course, Penn no longer releases school-specific admissions statistics. But when it did, Wharton’s acceptance rate was generally a bit lower than the overall acceptance rate for Penn, the CAS acceptance rate was generally about the same as Penn’s overall rate, SEAS’ rate was a bit above that, and Nursing’s was a bit above SEAS’. Of course, the SEAS applicant pool is generally more self-selecting than the pool for CAS, and things like average SAT Math scores are no doubt higher for accepted SEAS applicants than those for accepted CAS applicants. But that’s been the generally accepted hierarchy, so to speak, of individual school acceptance rates for some time now, and there’s no reason to believe that it’s changed–unless, of course, you have some inside info to the contrary. ;)</p>
<p>The bottom line, though, is that ALL of the individual school’s acceptance rates are quite low now, and it’s a bit pointless to quibble over which school has the lowest rate. For example, Nursing, with the highest rate, was already down to a 20% acceptance rate for the Class of 2014, when Penn’s overall acceptance rate was 14%:</p>
<p><a href=“Nursing School admits 20 percent for 2014 | The Daily Pennsylvanian”>Nursing School admits 20 percent for 2014 | The Daily Pennsylvanian;
<p>Now that Penn’s overall acceptance rate is down to 10%, the acceptance rates of the individual schools also are probably significantly lower, and squeezed into a narrower range of variation (again with CAS’ rate being about 10%, SEAS and Nursing being a bit higher, and Wharton being a bit lower).</p>
<p>Engineering and CS are both very specialized majors and hard work. You will only enjoy them if you really have a passion for it. Coding is also a case of love it or hate it. You should try an intro class in HS to know for sure how you like it. </p>
<p>Yea the problem is my school does not have any sort of class that could help me decide; it is a small school. I might need help knowing some of the best majors and what you do if you major in them. </p>
<p>Do you even like science? It doesn’t really seem like you are very interested it and want to go into it for the job prospects. That’s a bad idea. If you are not interested in STEM, you will not be happy studying in any of these fields at Penn. You should go for something like Econ or apply to Wharton in that case since it doesn’t sound like you want to study the humanities or social sciences either.</p>
<p>However, if you are genuinely interested, Bio definitely has labs and reading about things similar to what you are reading now. The job prospects are also pretty bad, especially if you just have a BA and don’t plan on going to professional school.</p>
<p>CS like other people said, is dependent on whether you enjoy that type of thinking. Computer engineering is different in that it is more like electrical engineering in that you are trying to understand how to engineer the different parts of a computer and integrate them so they work together.</p>
<p>More along those lines, there is also systems engineering, the networked and social systems program, DMD. Those fields would involve learning about programming and learning about complex systems.</p>
<p>In CAS on the science side there is physics (my major) Lab wise there are three half credit labs and one full credit lab. However, typical physics labs that you do in undergrad are very different than in bio and involve mainly taking measurements utilitizing electronics and different equipment. On the research side I would say physics is probably the most diverse discipline in that you can find labs that resemble chemistry materials science or biology (called biophysics) as well as astrophysics (instrumentation or observation in which you analyze data), computational groups, and hard core theory groups (literally most work is done on pen and paper which happens to be my area).</p>
<p>Physics majors from Penn can get jobs in fields like finance, tech (if you know how to program), consulting, etc. You could also get a PhD, if you are so inclined, and then you could potentially work at IBM or Intel. </p>
<p>However, I will say that if you are not into physics, don’t do it. Same probably goes for the other STEM disciplines. It is one of the hardest majors at Penn and is incredibly time intensive.</p>
<p>I cannot do Physics because my high school does not offer it. I might want to go into CS…but all I know is that it involves coding and a lot of math. I am not sure about applying to Wharton because that’s too competitive but I might still think about it because I want to do business too, but I don’t know what you do in it. </p>
<p>@ThePariah
I think you are right to be concerned about job prospects, but @Poeme is also right that it is a bad plan to pick a major based on career opportunities.</p>
<p>In my opinion, the best way to think about it is to decide which subjects you enjoy and which ones you do not enjoy. Then, from the list of subjects that you enjoy, research the job prospects for different possibilities, and then select a major that is the best combination of doing something you like, that will also give you an employable skill.</p>
<p>In general Science and Engineering majors tend to be quite difficult, so I would not apply for them if you do not know something about it.</p>
<p>@much2learn I didn’t favor a subject in school too extremely, but I do like creative writing and I am good at it (Teacher confirmed, used my writing multiple times as class examples). I also like language and am good at learning language (learned English in less than a year, have particularly impressive ECs that relate to it - free tutoring for kids outside of school and a kid in my class with no English skills). However, I don’t think the job prospects are good on those, and my mom is pushing me to go engineering (she won’t kill me if I don’t though) because it earns $$$ lol. </p>
<p>Does your school offer Computer Science, Calculus, or Chemistry AP courses?</p>