<p>I already posted this on the MBA forum, but it wasn't much help being on the MBA forum lol.
Though I'd find better info on this forum!
How is IB recruiting at the following schools? (be descriptive if you want, like how recruiting is there in dept, etc.). Thanks guys, really appreciate it. I think these schools are more 'in my range'.
Cornell
JHU
Carnegie Mellon
U of Chicago
Northwestern
NYU (not Stern)
Columbia
Dartmouth
Brown
London School of Economics (int'l, if anyone has any idea)
UVA
UPenn
Washington Univ.
Duke
Rice
Emory
Georgetown SFS and non SFS
UCLA/UCB</p>
<p>Ranked in tiers:</p>
<p>Dartmouth</p>
<p>Columbia
Penn
Duke</p>
<p>Cornell
Brown
Northwestern
Chicago</p>
<p>UVA
Georgetown
UCB</p>
<p>UCLA
JHU
Rice
NYU (not Stern)
Carnegie Mellon
Washington Univ.
Emory</p>
<p>What exactly do you mean by tiers? Like say if I went to non Stern NYU, and maintained a very strong GPA, will I be a target of recruiters? I’m just afraid that my undergrad won’t allow me to go anywhere lol (hopefully I do go to my fav. schools Dartmouth and Cornell, which happen to be great target schools too lol).</p>
<p>I’m just misunderstood on this tier system.</p>
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<p>I don’t know what you mean by tiers. A firm either recruits at a school or it doesn’t. If you mean how many firms recruit at each of those schools then the best place to get that information is at each school’s career center website. I always encourage prospective students/parents to check out each school’s career center. They will list which firm and when they are coming to recruit, and you could also find out where students interned and ultimately got placed.</p>
<p>One thing to keep in mind is when time is hard and budget is tight, firms will usually recruit where they would get the most bang for their bucks. They would alwasy recruit from HYP and Wharton, Goldman likes Brown because of senior management. They like to recruit from Cornell because of its size (one visit, you could find hundreds of recuits if that’s what you want). NYU Stern is always easy because of its location. Where they will skip would be small LACs at some remot places. I don’t know why JHU is even on because most IBs do not recruit there (if any).</p>
<p>Deutsche Bank definitely recruits at JHU, as does Citi when I last looked. Regardless I put it on the bottom tier, which is the lowest I can place it in this group.</p>
<p>What I mean by tiers is schools in those groupings will do about the same - i.e. have similar numbers of IB firms recruiting on campus/ similar placement success. So basically the difference between Penn and Columbia isn’t going to be meaningful. Dartmouth’s D-plan is what puts at the top of this group.</p>
<p>Do they go to USC at all???</p>
<p>Georgetown should be in the Cornell tier. People from MSB, SFS and COL all have good chances, most come from MSB or SFS though.</p>
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<p>What’s the basis of this ranking? For example, how is a Cornell degree more appleaing to IB jobs than a Berkeley degree?</p>
<p>^ You do love Berkeley, but anyways simple logic dictates that Cornell is on the easy coast while berkeley is on the west coast. Voila more IB recruitment. Same reason for Georgetown and Brown. Also concerning interests. IBs have prolly figured out that JHU students are not interested in banking and more interested in academia or professional schools.</p>
<p>^ so it’s not so much on the brand power of the school, but rather on proximity of the school to NYC, is that what you’re saying? How would Stanford match up against those schools then? enlighten me. </p>
<p>I got curious when Cornell was ranked above Berkeley when a lot of Berk peeps I know got into IB easily including a lot of grads from other colleges such as engineering, L&S and Chemistry. So, what was the basis for the ranking then? I’m rather curious than pis$ed, so chill out.</p>
<p>If you thiink proximity was his basis, how come Stern, JHU, WUStL and CMU were ranked below Berkeley?</p>
<p>RML - quick thing I was referring to NYUs CAS (not Stern). I was speaking wholistically - and this is my experience and based off everything I’ve personally seen and read. Berkeley’s banking and recruitment, in my experience, is much more major/ department driven. So while Haas and EE majors might have strong access, its not as universal to get in across the entire school and the percentages of students who get into banking are lower than at Cornell. In any case I think it could be argued that parts of UCB could easily be in the higher group - but not the whole school. Just my two cents.</p>
<p>I never claimed proximity was slipper1234’s basis. You inferred that. I was pointing out that the ranking did not seem that bad to me and that it could be argued based on a proximity standpoint. Brand power has a lot to do with it, but when the brandpower of a school is not that much greater than the other, then proximity/interests would play a role. Some schools are heavily focussed. JHU and WUSTL have very little interests in attracting banks. I know this from interacting with people from JHU- lots of premed and biomedical sciences people. CMU is an engineering school, I agree it should be slightly higher, but I was focused on berkeley. Berkeley is not Stanford in a million years- I was referring to equivalent schools or roughly equivalent schools. </p>
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<p>Most times raw statistics and not anecdotes give a better picture.</p>
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then provide the statistics because that’s what i want to look at too. </p>
<p>slipper1234, Most of those Berkeley grads that got into IB are in California offices, not NY, that’s probably why you met more Cornell grads than Berkeley grads. But having access to Ibanks is not any easier for Cornell grads than Berkeley grads. I’d say they are the same. The only difference is that, Cornell grads are penetrated in NY whilst Berkeley grads are in the West Coast.</p>
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Really? i’m curious how well do you know both schools?</p>
<p>sefago, </p>
<p>I have the complete names of 47 Berkeley grads who got into Goldman this year, many of them are for California offices, though. (Only 4 of them are in NY.) I am willing to provide their names to you through PM, but here’s the deal. For every name I give you (and position), you also need to send me a Stanford grad who got into Goldman - also - this year. I know Stanford is a great school and is superior to Berkeley, in general. But let’s see if it is a million years ahead of Berkeley.</p>
<p>I will tell you what Cornell does for its students. Maybe other schools also do it…</p>
<p>Cornell´s career center and its alums organize Cornell day at almost every BB firm for Juniors over the winter break. Any student who is interested could apply. Most of those firms only invite 20 to 50 Cornell students to participate. They spend anywhere from few hours to a whole day at a firm. As an example, GS selected 15 students to spend a whole day with them. JP invited over 50 students for a cocktail party. Those events are all organized by Cornell alums at the firm. It´s a great opportunity for students to network. This is all before the official recruiting season. By the time my daughter was interviewing on campus, she´s already met a lot of interviewers and they remembered her.</p>
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<p>Hmm thanks guys. Though still no word up for LSE? </p>
<p>And thanks Oldfort, Cornell’s one of my top choices so it’s good to know of it’s pluses. Though I’m glad most of my target schools are target schools for IBs.</p>
<p>^ Pertaining to LSE- It depends on where you want to work. You want to work in the UK or Europe its top. From what I have gathered from talking to people, IB recruiting in the UK is way different. They dont have the same on-campus recruiting as they have in the US. Infact Human resources filters applications based on the name of your school. So while networking and campus recruiting is big in the US, it is less so. in the UK Now this is what I understand from talking with people so I would expect you to find out from someone who studied at LSE. </p>
<p>All the people I know who studied at LSE did so as study abroad students or are currently there for their masters. However, all the study abroad kids I knw got internships in london in IBs even those from nontargets or small LACs in the US to show you how impressive it is going to LSE. Look at this thread</p>
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<p>Personally i would advise you to take LSE for the masters and US for undergrad if you plan to work in the US.</p>
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<p>I was talking about New York/New England IB recruiting. My fault I did not make that clear. However, I did mention proximity. The problem is that a lot of schools in the US have regional recruitment. Houston IBs would be all over Rice and Texas-Austin but it doesn’t mean they are in the same tier as some top schools since people mostly want to work in NY.</p>