How is UNC's reputation???

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
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<p>Cuse0507: How many 22 year olds are worried about raising a family straight out of college? Kids want to work in NYC because the benefits and exit opportunities are infinitely better than anywhere else. </p>

<p>I think that the stress and family issues only come into play in the late twenties perhaps after their MBA (if they make it that far). </p>

<p>Whatever, I’m done arguing about this it’s obvious neither one of us is going to budge. </p>

<p>Blair: I have no beef with UNC, it’s my school and I love it. There are a lot of reasons to choose UNC over UVa but KF is not one of them. All other things being equal Mcintire is a better school, with better opportunities. Is it a huge difference? No. But I just think that people should realize that on Wall Street there is a significant difference in the prestige of a degree from UVa vs. UNC. </p>

<p>UNC grads can still do great things, they will just have to work a little harder and network much more.</p>

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<p>If they are smart, they will recognize that taking a job in a city that they don’t plan on living in for much longer is a bad idea. NYC is VERY stressful and very expensive for someone just out of college to live. There are much better opportunities down here. </p>

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<p>Certainly your opinion, but not a fact.</p>

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<p>haha chill guys…no need to fight over anything, theyre both awesome schools. Just off topic a bit… i just received my letter of acceptance from uva and there’s a hand written note on the bottom about “bring your tennis raquet” (i play tennis) and “intellect to uva”… and its addressed to me in my english name (not my korean name, maybe my counsellor used my english name in her letter)…is it common that somebody actually writes something like this to a student? Right now im imagining a bunch of people sitting on desks writing little notes on acceptance letters in a dark room…im rather surprised about this (that the person knew my english name, which means he/she would have had to remember what was written on my counsellor’s recommendation, and about how this person knows i play tennis)…</p>

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<p>Alright, I’m quite tired of hearing all this bashing and all about UNC/ UVA. Last night at dinner, my friend’s mother, a Harvard graduate and now a college counselor, was pleasantly surprised to feel that I’ve decided to transfer to the University of North Carolina from the University of Miami. I had told her I was waitlisted at UVA and continued onto say how UVA is so prestigious and elite. She bashed UNC saying that it is so hard for out of staters to get into because it’s like a UCLA sphield where the majority of students are in-state, meaning that there not even that smart, which is complete BS. She said, “People with C averages get into UNC” which is completely false. </p>

<p>UNC is extremely hard for in-state students as well. Do all you bashers know that only top 3-5% of students in the graduating class get in? Not even the top 10%, the top 10% have to settle for other UNC branches and NCSU. The average GPA for Fall 2008 was 4.4 GPA and that’s the average. UNC offers many different majors and there almost all ranked #1 or #2 in the nation. As far as I’m concerned, Kenan-Flagler and McIntire are pretty much the same school. </p>

<p>Academics is not the only thing that contributes to a school’s reputation. Unfortunately, it is hard for these brainwashed parent’s who have their degress framed from ivy leagues school to understand. They feel that they have to push their kids so they go to these ivy league schools and follow in “mommy and daddy’s” footsteps. The truth of the matter is you can be just as successful going to UNC/ UVA over Harvard/Yale. </p>

<p>Quality of life should be taken into account too when determining a school’s reputation? Are the students at Harvard/ UVA happy as the ones at UNC? I feel that the quality of students at UNC is much better at UVA. The student body at UNC is less pretentious and not as waspy. When I visited UVA, I thought I was in an ivy league school, seeing the students walk around in their dressy attire, suits and Italian dress shoes. UNC students are more down to earth, equally intelligent, and much more happier if you ask me. UVA reminds me of old rich Southern money and UNC is a melting pot of cultures and has a breed for each individual group of people.</p>

<p>That’s all. I just had to get that off my chest.</p>

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<p>How many 22 year olds are worried about raising a family straight out of college? Kids want to work in NYC because the benefits and exit opportunities are infinitely better than anywhere else. </p>

<p>jwlstn, you supposedly go to UNC. how many UNC students do you honestly know whose goal is moving to NYC after graduation. It is definitely not the standard at Carolina to want to move to new york.</p>

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<p>Jwlstn - Let me just say, if I graduated from Kenan-Flagler and was given the choice between New York and Charlotte, I would choose Charlotte. New York is not the place for me to live, and I would enjoy Charlotte a lot more. You can say that everyone would go to NY if given the chance, but I know so many UNC students/grads who wouldn’t. My mother graduated from UNC in business, and chose to stay in Raleigh. The fact is, you can’t compare the statistics of UNC/UVA students who go to NY. NY is not for everyone. Maybe check some statistics about the overall employment for the two schools after graduation…that may be more telling.</p>

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<p>I’m not hating on UNC at all. In fact, I’m not saying anything about UNC at all. But…when you’re talking about business/finance, I think the most coveted jobs/positions are in NYC.</p>

<p>Now, granted, you can take my unseasoned input for what it’s worth (hardly anything), but if you browse through this thread [<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/investment-banking/459445-best-undergraduate-college-investment-banking-hedge-funding.html][/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/investment-banking/459445-best-undergraduate-college-investment-banking-hedge-funding.html]</a>] for example, you’ll see that they quantify general “success” by counting specific internships (like Goldman Sach’s) at NYC, not Charlotte. Then again, that’s only looking at I-Banking…</p>

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<p>@Cuse0507,</p>

<p>In response to jwlstn’s “UNC grads can still do great things, they will just have to work a little harder and network much more.” :</p>

<p>I’d have to agree with him. UNC is a wonderful school, there’s no arguing that. Nonetheless, in the business world, it isn’t a “target school.” It isn’t heavily recruited, at least as heavily as some other schools (err…including UVA, I think). Does that mean UNC students are in any way inferior? No, not at all. That’s all that he was saying: UNC is a great school filled with great students; however, for those aiming for top jobs in the business/finance/banking world, without being actively recruited, they will have to work a bit harder (compared to, for instance, students at Wharton/Sloan/Stern).</p>

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<p>Check out this interview with Rye Barcott, a former Marine Corps CPT, founder of Carolina for Kibera, UNC Alum, and current Harvard Business School MBA student.</p>

<p>[Rye</a> Barcott Profile - MBA - Harvard Business School](<a href=“http://www.hbs.edu/mba/profiles/students/rbarcott.html]Rye”>People - MBA - Harvard Business School)</p>

<p>There’s also another UNC alum in their profiles section, pretty cool.</p>

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<p>knat</p>

<p>Are you in the business world? I am, and have been for over 35 years. I’m not trying to be argumentative but rather than allow your somewhat biased opinion (you are heading to Duke) be accepted as fact by the OP please allow me to set the record straight.</p>

<p>I know for a fact that UNC is indeed a “target school” and is recruited by most major Fortune 100 companies as well as Wall Street at the same level that UVA is, if not moreso. In fact, the heads of several Wall St firms (who are survivors incidentally) are UNC grads. My company is one of the companies that recruits not only KF but also the university in general. We have several UNC grads in our offices in the NE and Mid Atlantic regions. My office is in Dallas but I actually interact with three UNC grads who are in senior management with both suppliers and clients of my company on an almost daily basis.</p>

<p>Now I won’t argue that the level of Wall St recruitment is at the same level of a few select schools, in particular Wharton and Princeton, but those two are outliers even among the Ivies and the level of recruitment at those two schools far surpasses most others even Duke.</p>

<p>It’s important that these boards reflect truth when answering questions not opinions that are not grounded in fact, and especially opinions from someone associated with a fierce rival school.</p>

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No. Read: “you can take my unseasoned input for what it’s worth <a href=“hardly%20anything”>b</a>**.” That is why I backed up my argument with a link to another thread that I recently read through, rather than to attempt to reason it out with knowledge and experience that I do not have.</p>

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So just by the fact that I’m going to Duke…I must be anti-UNC? Ha, I guess that’s not that illogical of a conclusion to make. But, please dear sir, “allow me to set the record straight.” Yes, I am going to Duke next fall. For years, though, I have been a UNC fan. I have an older sibling who graduated from UNC. The decision between UNC and Duke was one of the hardest I’ve ever had to make, one which I brooded over until the day of the deadline. Yes, the two schools are athletic rivals, but please, for fear of insulting your own alma mater’s intellectuality, can you not see that we are academic peers?</p>

<p>When comparing two or more school, each school, by nature of comparison, has relative positives and negatives. UNC, UVA, Duke (by the way…when did I ever mention anything about Duke in my post?) all have both. Would it be “biased” to point out a negative about a school? Here’s one negative about Duke: In my opinion, many of its most popular fields of study, including organic chemistry (for pre-med) and economics have an unhealthy amount of competition and “weeding out” that dissuades many from studying what they would otherwise love. Have I become biased against Duke? No, I just accept the fact that no school is inherently perfect.</p>

<p>I have always held nothing but the utmost respect for UNC. Many of my classmates will be attending there next year, and I will undoubtedly be in Chapel Hill visiting them on many a-weekend. I still post in the UNC forum not to bash it, but to help others and encourage them to apply. Check my responses to UNC chances threads. So again, eadad, in order to help nurture a community of intellectual fraternity here, rather than spiteful competition, please be more wary before dismissing a fellow CCer as biased against your school.</p>

<p>I think you were more interested in the fact that I will be attending Duke next year than you were in my actual argument, because the link I sent was dead (which you didn’t mention). If you’re still interested, here it is: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/investment-banking/459445-best-undergraduate-college-investment-banking-hedge-funding.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/investment-banking/459445-best-undergraduate-college-investment-banking-hedge-funding.html&lt;/a&gt;. In retrospect, I think that in the 1 set of numbers that UNC’s featured in, the number of internship positions held (at 2) is actually tied with UVA. Thus, I’ll retract my “(err…including UVA, I think).”</p>

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<p>When are people going to understand that there is more to the business world than investment banking</p>

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<p>IB isn’t everything but it’s the most common route (although not necessarily the best) into the most coveted business jobs and MBA programs (HF, PE, VC, etc.) and has pretty similar recruiting at the BB level to other top-level business jobs such as Consulting or Sales and Trading.</p>

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<p>Are we talking undergraduate or graduate? I am seriously considering UNC for an MBA. As well as some of the rest of the better knows in Marketing. I am a NC resident so a UNC MBA is way cheaper.</p>