<p>oh yea and if you max out every single time you go you will get muscular in no time. a friend of mine started lifting last june and went from benching 115lbs to 230lbs. went from weighing 145lbs to weighing 160lbs. and it's all muscle.</p>
<p>I wouldn't suggest maxing out for the first few months. I think 5x5s would work very well going reasonably heavy (but nowhere near your max) with bulking and a little cardio. As long as the OP does compound work-outs and continually lifts heavier he'll get stronger and bigger. Besides, he doesn't want to try maxing out and risk over-training or injury.</p>
<p>Work on form first and stay away from the machines.</p>
<p>You know people, I'm surprised that you all still even listen to Wutangfinancial. He is a smart man, but a trouble and depressing one. Avoid the unhappy and the unlucky everyone. </p>
<p>His beliefs come down to this:</p>
<p>Only the few percentage get girls.
Height is the highest determining factors, not just a factor, but so big that even every other redeeming quality will not even make a dent.
Even short girls will ignore you for they want even taller guys to compensate.
If you are short, everything you do will be turned to look negative (like ambition will be made to look like a Napoleon Complex).</p>
<p>There, that his way of thinking, look back at his posts if you disagree and come back to me here to show if he don't says that. I also lurk at another forum, if that's not enough to discredit him, there he have a lot of other issues that also hurts him that I think cause far worse troubles than just his height. </p>
<p>With that, the trouble with evolutionary psycology, is that it have explained a lot of behaviors, but you cannot use it to predict them. When it does correctly predict a women's behavior, it would be a lot more of your gut instincts and common sense than because you read Why is Sex Fun? by Jared Diamond. Many behaviors could be expain with biological origins, but many others can be much simplier to explain by other reasonings. </p>
<p>Here is what I have to say. For that post about the nice guy from Craigslist, it's too black and white. When guys say nice guy, they think friendly, cool, and outgoing. When women say nice guy, they think wimp. If he was friendly, cool, and outgoing, women will say friendly, cool, and outgoing, not nice. Nice guy is actually good, but a true nice guy who does nice things for the sake of it and thus would not do stuff he knows is degrading, not the spineless man who is basically a suck-up and looking for a reward. </p>
<p>Now saying that, if you want girls. First look around you surrondings. Unlike some that make a lot of bold statements, you'll notice there are many couples of various types. It's not just the frat boy meathead or toned body-builder but also some guys that looks quite average. </p>
<p>There are many nerds who have hot girls (well perhaps not models, but at least pretty good looking). However, when I say nerds, I mean a man who openly have interests in nerdy stuff and connect in that area. By your definition of a nerd, they don't get hot girls or any girls really. How can you get any if you don't know anybody any lack any skills to meet anyone?</p>
<p>Iceburns does have a point and you should take a look at it. No, not being jerk, but the fact that he's a man who have nerdy interests, but have girls. How did he do it? Not for acts like a prick, I don't think in real life he really does, real jerks act far worse than him (though even being a real jerk attract some type of girls). He's just attacking one problem of being in an extreme by pushing to the other extreme. So while he is nice and nerdy, he decided to push to the extreme of being a jerk, but ended with a man who is outgoing and confident. When he said act like he doesn't care about her, he is avoiding acting like a puppy dog rather than avoiding being a friendly person.</p>
<p>In the end however, if you want girls...</p>
<p>GET A LIFE. Not just for a girls man, but for the sake that if you want to live better and happier, than I'm sure you have some desires and dreams that you have put off, well, GET TO IT. Go pick up that hobby you always want to do! Go out and have some fun. Meet some people and do something. Working out will help too, but not all the muscle in the world will help if you continue to have no friends and nothing to do (though picking up weight lifting, you would meet some people along the way and thus lead to the same place). While I cannot gaurantee complete success, I can gaurantee that staying in your room being shy, having no life, and few friends will not bring you girls.</p>
<p>Applause for Ant8904's post, and the following in it bears repeating:</p>
<p>"Now saying that, if you want girls. First look around you surrondings. Unlike some that make a lot of bold statements, you'll notice there are many couples of various types. It's not just the frat boy meathead or toned body-builder but also some guys that looks quite average. </p>
<p>There are many nerds who have hot girls (well perhaps not models, but at least pretty good looking). However, when I say nerds, I mean a man who openly have interests in nerdy stuff and connect in that area. By your definition of a nerd, they don't get hot girls or any girls really. How can you get any if you don't know anybody any lack any skills to meet anyone?"</p>
<p>I will add that there are short, homely men who have girlfriends and wives who meet the OP's definition of "hot'. Those men, however, didn't meet those girlfriends and wives by staying in their room fantasizing. They got out and lead lives.</p>
<p>I am a supernerd and I have a decent looking girlfriend. I don't look terribly great myself so I don't expect a stunning lass. </p>
<p>Regardless, there is no coincidence that I happened to meet this girl as I picked up old hobbies -- track bike training and generally being <em>outside my dorm</em>. Trust me, it doesn't matter if you don't get girls immediately: if you look decent you WILL be seen, even at a big school. And seen repeatedly until the girl finds a way to contact you. </p>
<p>Bottom line: just go outside.</p>
<p>^Uh, waiting for a girl to "ask you out" doesn't work. </p>
<p>As much as I complain, and I'm def. NOT a player, I've been with a few very above average looking women. I had to make a move, and I had to be funny, cool, confident, etc. to make up for my lack of physical presence. Good looking girls don't need to seek out guys, and they certainly won't seek out quiet nerdy guys.</p>
<p>Agreed, no guy should ever wait for a girl to ask him out. There might be the rare occurance of a girl taking the initiative, but what guy wants to be asked out, anyway? Doesn't every guy (even the nerdy ones) want to feel like he "won" his girlfriend?</p>
<p>I don't mean "asked out." I mean a girl finding interest in you enough to start a conversation or at least find you on facebook. ^_^</p>
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<p>Not really.</p>
<p>just curious..how many guys get facebook friend requests from girls? Do guys usually make friend requests or is it the girls?</p>
<p>I think girls usually do the requesting, being that most guys I know are not really into Facebook as much as girls are.</p>
<p>I dunno, I'd never want to ask a guy out, unless it's to a girls-ask-guys dance. Otherwise I'd feel like I'd be dragging around the guy the whole relationship. I've asked other girls about this, and they agree that they feel like a guy doesn't treasure them as much if they're not the ones who asked the girl out.</p>
<p>Hygiene + acting coy + intelligence + humor + confidence = girl.</p>
<p>^ strange. I've never had many friend requests my girls (its not just me...my guy friends say the same thing too). Most guys I know usually friend request girls on facebook.</p>
<p>"I've asked other girls about this, and they agree that they feel like a guy doesn't treasure them as much if they're not the ones who asked the girl out."</p>
<p>This is totally false. Honestly, I think it's just that girls can get away with making excuses if they're afraid to ask a guy out, but guys are expected to suck it up...it's just gender expectations, and there really aren't any good reasons behind it.</p>
<p>I don't think it's gender expectations. I think it's in male nature. And I'm just saying what I asked other females, none of whom would be afraid of asking out a guy on their own. After all, everyone agrees that it's a lot easier for a girl to get a date than for a guy to get one.</p>
<p>I can't deny the truth that most "hot" girls don't like nerdy guys. I am a guy by the way. My gf, who is considered to be very "hot" by standards of many men, has told me a lot of times that the reason she was initially attracted to me was bc I was physically attractive. Not to brag or anything, but she didn't mention any parts about my personality, humor, intelligence, etc. What I can say from my experiences with getting good looking women is that you DO need to have an athletic appearance at the least, if you aren't handsome. So, hit the gym and get some tan. Dressing up nicely is also a must. If you are really serious about getting a hot girl, please don't dress up w/ the clothes that your mom bought for you. Abercrombie, Hollister, Bannana, Jcrew are some of my suggestions. And, your personality does matter in the long run, but it's usually your looks that attract "hot" women in the first place.</p>
<p>the title should be ''how likely is it for CC'ers to date?'' loll</p>