How many SATIIs?

<p>With the new SATI, how many SATIIs are required?</p>

<p>Let's see how well this URL from the MIT Web site pastes in here: </p>

<p>Testing</a> Requirements </p>

<p>If you can't follow that link (and, yo, Ben, the usability of the links on the MIT admissions site is a BIG problem), the text reads like this: </p>

<p>"Testing Requirements</p>

<p>"For entry year 2006: SAT I (either the old version or the new version, available beginning March 2005) or the ACT (with or without the optional writing test). In addition, we require three SAT II Subject Tests: one in math (level 1 (Ic) or 2 (IIc)), one in science (physics, chemistry, or biology e/m), and the third in any area of your choosing.</p>

<p>"For entry year 2007 and beyond: SAT I or the ACT with the writing test. In addition, we require two SAT II Subject Tests: one in math (level 1 (Ic) or 2 (IIc)), one in science (physics, chemistry, or biology e/m).</p>

<p>"For non-native English speakers (for entry year 2006 and beyond): You have two options: 1) take the tests required for native English speakers (see above), or 2) you may take the TOEFL and two SAT II Subject Tests, one in math (level 1 (Ic) or 2 (IIc)) and one in science (physics, chemistry, or biology e/m)." </p>

<p>I hope this helps. And I hope the link works. It breaks the link coding in a Brand X online forum I participate in. </p>

<p>AFTER EDIT: Yep, it looks like the link doesn't paste in on CC pages any better than it pastes in on Brand X pages. The link is just too darn long, and too darn not human-readable. I would expect better of MIT; there is surely someone in MIT who has the technical competence to generate links that are user-friendly for pasting into online discussion boards and emails and other forms of communication among people who want to share accurate information about MIT.</p>

<p>This is from Matt McGann's blog at MIT:<br>
SAT I (either the old version or the new version, available beginning March 2005) or the ACT (with or without the optional writing test). In addition, we require three SAT II Subject Tests: one in math (level 1 (Ic) or 2 (IIc)), one in science (physics, chemistry, or biology e/m), and the third in any area of your choosing.<br>
<a href="http://matt.mitblogs.com/archives/2005/08/testing_require.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://matt.mitblogs.com/archives/2005/08/testing_require.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Yep, long story on those URL's. As the content dude for MyMIT, I often need to link to things and can't. I've been hounding the poor folks who handle the tech stuff; they're working on a fix. Sorry for the inconvenience.</p>

<p>To this thread I'll just add for the record that the third SATII can truly be in anything, including the other math or another science.</p>

<p>Sorry for not having seen this problem earlier. For problematic links, it is best to use the double entry method that consists of entering the url and a text describing it.</p>

<p>The method is described in the help tools, but here it is: Of course you need to eplace the signs { with [ and } with ] to make it work. You should see it correctly after entering {url=<a href="http://www.mit.edu%7DThis"&gt;www.mit.edu}This&lt;/a> should link to MIT{/url}</p>

<p>This</a> links to MIT</p>

<p>:)</p>

<p>Thanks, Trinity, the MIT links break the same workaround you suggest on a Brand X board, so I didn't realize the workaround would fix the problem here. I appreciate you getting the links to work.</p>

<p>You're welcome! In case of technical issues, please remember that anyone can use the "Report an offensive post" or PM a moderator. </p>

<p>I will sticky this thread for a while. Do not hesitate to tell us about other threads that cover FAQs and could be stickied for the benefit of all applicants. </p>

<p>Trinity</p>

<p>Will taking the Math IIC be considered much more favorably than taking Math IC?</p>

<p>Also, on that note, it seems like often the SAT II Bio is seen as the "easy" test (like bio is seen like the "easy" science in general). So would opting to take Bio SAT II instead of Chem or Physics hurt you when you're applying (even if you have, say an 800Bio vs. 750Physics)?</p>

<p>Well, for one thing, there's not going to be a huge difference between getting an 800 vs. getting a 750, period. But I think you should take the test for which you feel the best prepared; getting a good score on biology isn't likely to be less impressive than getting a good score on physics/chemistry.</p>

<p>If you get get 750 and 800, do it ! Do not hesitate from taking SAT2s more than required. The higher, the better. The more, the better.</p>

<p>I advise everyone to take as much SAT2s as they can. If you have 5 SAT2s, you have an advantage.</p>

<p>MIT wants over 720 on Math II C and over 760 Math IC</p>

<p>Anything over 700 on any test is definitely in the ballpark, and plenty of people get in with a score or two in the 600's. We don't have any specific numbers in mind when evaluating an application; tests are but one part of a much bigger picture. Don't get hung up in the numbers.</p>

<p>I got a 750 on math IC, a 680 on IIC and a 4 on AP Calc AB in my senior year when I was 15, and I'm taking Calc BC this year. Although I know these arent comparable, would my scores portray me as a weak or mediocre math student? Would my SAT II in IC be negated by my 680 in IIC? I'm really concerned about that.</p>

<p>No, and no. We'll always use whatever scores put an applicant in the best light.</p>

<p>If numbers isn’t all, how could a straight As student with SAT 750 m 750 v; 3 SAT II above 780, 12 AP (5 and 4) with volunteer hours in H for H, Hispanic, with many awards (including National Honor Society and National Honor Spanish Society), good recommendations, first generation college bound in US, etc. was deferred? Has the essay more weight than the numbers?</p>

<p>Over 11,000 students applied to MIT this year, and because our applicant pool is so self-selecting, the vast majority of them are smart enough and prepared enough to thrive here. The essay does not have more weight than the numbers; both are considered as part of the overall context.</p>

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If numbers isn’t all, how could a straight As student with SAT 750 m 750 v; 3 SAT II above 780, 12 AP (5 and 4) with volunteer hours in H for H, Hispanic, with many awards (including National Honor Society and National Honor Spanish Society), good recommendations, first generation college bound in US, etc. was deferred?

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<p>Just to add my own editorial comment, wouldn't that situation be a prime example for the idea that numbers aren't everything?</p>

<p>thanks for the response ben. </p>

<p>When evaluating an applicant's scores, are the SAT II scores averaged? Since I have 760 World History, 750 IC, 690 Physics, 600 Lit, 680 IIC, would I be evaluated with an average SAT II of 696 (all 5) or 733 (top 3 scores)? Or are averages not made at all?</p>

<p>We don't average scores, and we just consider your top 3 SATII scores no matter how many you submit. (To clarify, I mean your top 3 that also satisfy the requirement of one math, one science, and one of your choosing.)</p>

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we just consider your top 3 SATII scores

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<p>MIT requires three?</p>