<p>Does anybody know how many people were rejected ED. Also, and most importantly, WERE PEOPLE REJECTED ED???? or were they all deferred????</p>
<p>I don't think they release that type of number - I haven't seen it anywhere, though according to their stated practices they do, actually, reject people. I would guess that it's a very small number - I know of some fairly unqualified applicants, whom I would have thought were auto-rejects, who were deferred (and subsequently rejected).</p>
<p>Well, that's not terribly encouraging if they don't outright reject unqualified applicants. It gives false hope to those that were deffered, don't you think?</p>
<p>Princeton has usually declined to report this number in the past - perhaps tactical reasons.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2005/01/05/news/11741.shtml%5B/url%5D">http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2005/01/05/news/11741.shtml</a>
<a href="http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/1998/02/05/news/5889.shtml%5B/url%5D">http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/1998/02/05/news/5889.shtml</a></p>
<p>There has been some progress made towards full disclosure; in his last year at the admissions helm, former Dean Freddie Hargadon refused to even disclose how many had been <em>admitted</em> ED until the time when all admit data was reported in April!</p>
<p>COMPARE: <a href="http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2003/01/17/news/7021.shtml%5B/url%5D">http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2003/01/17/news/7021.shtml</a></p>
<p>Can there ever truly be an "auto-reject"?</p>
<p>I agree with Princeton's more modest approach against outright rejecting students. I don't think students should be disqualified in the Early pool just because they seem unqualified today - they might redeem themselves tomorrow. Admissions are subjective and there are no clear cut-offs... add to this the fact that situations change all the time, and you never know what might suddenly make a student more appealing for the school by the time RD rolls round...
If Princeton prefers to be more cautious with ED rejections, choosing instead to beleive the student may stand a chance (no matter how remote) by the RD round, why not defer them? Deferring a seemingly "unqualified" student in the early round is not, IMHO, giving 'false hope' to the student- it is the student's own responsibility to apply wisely and be realistic.</p>
<p>Yes, I agree with most of your thoughts, but I was also thinking along the lines of an applicant that has a modest GPA, modest SATs and just so-so recs, ECs, essays, etc., with no hook. In other words, your average Joe Schmo who thought it would be fun to apply to Princeton. Do you think it is fair to give them false hope?</p>
<p>My personal opinion is that they have three piles of deferred people.
1. Couldn't take ED but want RD to boost stats. Probably in, wont' even have to look at app again, unless the RD pool is more outstanding than they expected.
2. Polite deferral, going to reject, probably won't even look at app again.
3. The truly borderline people whose apps they will seriously revisit.</p>
<p>But idk I haven't heard of any rejected people.</p>
<p>If someone has a 1.7 GPA, 500 SAT, absolutely no extracurriculars or hook to explain poor testing or anything, then yes, I would consider them an 'auto-reject'</p>
<p>I'm guessing those kind of people don't actually apply to Ivies, but I'm just saying, I'm thinking there are auto rejects out there.</p>
<p>I think if someone has an application that is truly weak in relation to those seen in the general applicant pool, that person is a strong candidate for ED rejection. Some random causasian dude with a 1200 and a 3.4 GPA really does not stand much of a chance at princeton and there's not much he can do between december and april to get in, short of winning a nobel prize or something. Of course, if he had the brains to win a nobel prize, he surely wouldn't have a 1200 and a 3.4. I'd guess that most of the applicants are pretty strong however...probably at least in the AI5 range.</p>
<p>True...I wonder if any 4.0 1500s were rejected cuz they had no ECs whatsoever, bad essays, and no hook...i mean after all, most of the 1500+ers still get rejected RD round...</p>
<p>Isn't it nice that we have found new ways to torture ourselves until next month's mailing.</p>
<p>poor mommy in pain...;)</p>
<p>poor me in pain :(</p>
<p>5 ppl at my school including me did ED, 1 was accepted but he was a recruited athlete. me and this other kid were deferred, 1 was rejected and i donno what happened to the other. i think she made up a story. anyway, besides that one person who was rejected, i've only met ppl who were deferred or accepted</p>
<p>What sport was the athlete accepted for? Also, the person who was rejected, how would you describe their scholastic abilities?</p>
<p>track. the person who was rejected, i don't know her stats, but i remember when she told ppl she applied ED to pton, my neighbor was like SHE'S applying to princeton? so by that remark, i'm guessing she had pretty low stats and not the brightest crayon in the box</p>