How much do you improve? (on sat)

<p>ok i took a couple practice tests, and they look like this-620 M 650 V and 690-740 W. those scores are a bit lower then what im looking for. Im taking the Sat in a month, do i have any chance at improving. when you study how much do average scores go up. i havnt taken the test yet, but im sure they will look somthing like this? do i have any chance of at least breaking the 700 mark? ive taken a kaplan prep course, but i didnt learn anything because my tutor was a ..... and i was lazy. from your first test, did your scores improve greatly or do they simply stay the same? im hoping to improve, but im really staying the same, those scores are the same or even worse then on my first practice test. what do i do? am i stuck? thanks all!</p>

<p>btw: i heard the act is easier. is there any truth to this rumor?</p>

<p>the english is a lot easier on the ACT than the SAT. i got a 31 on the english, and only a 600 on the SAT the first time i took it.</p>

<p>for the math- 580 (first time) on SAT and like 25. it goes up to trig and i didn't have the right calculator.</p>

<p>my SAT scores went from an 1810 to a 1960
i used the kaplan book, too</p>

<p>if you don't prep generally the scores will stay about the same. most people improve greatly on here b/c they do take the time to study. 700's across the board are doable for you.</p>

<p>May SAT - 1940 (700M, 620CR, 620W)
October SAT - 2170 (740M, 660CR, 770W)</p>

<p>I'm still disappointed, there's no reason I should be getting 740 in math after perfect math scores on the SAT and likely the SAT II. CR is just a matter of expanding my vocabulary. I'm really debating whether to retake in December, because I think I can definitely boost my score another 100 points if I work at it.</p>

<p>ACT composite of 33 (Top scores: 36M, 35 Eng, 36 Science, 29 Reading), so I don't see why I couldn't hit at least 1500 M+CR</p>

<p>so even if i cant improve in a months time i shouldnt worry? im trying to get better, but i dont know if i can. i havnt even taken a practice act. oh well, at least i'll have a baseline i can improve on.</p>

<p>the act is just a test focusing on different stregnths. People i know say that whereas the sat focuses on testing the ability to test, the act tests knowledge aquired throughout high school, and thinking capacity.</p>

<p>for those of you interested in a detailed look at SAT I improvement from test to test, have a look at this thread, with summary on post 76:
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=70050&page=4%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=70050&page=4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>bottom line....of 51 testers reporting, 92% showed improved scores, with a mean improvement of about 100 points (out of 2400), with highest improvements coming from testers with lower starting SATs. While this survey was not "scientific" it is probably accurate to say that most people improve substantially from one test to another......of course, the ones who reported were likely ones who prepared.</p>

<p>don't jump the gun on that one... havent you been paying attention in AP statistics...?</p>

<p>That's a voluntary response sample... those individuals who scored better are more likely to respond; for esteem purposes.</p>

<p>For instance, had I saw that thread, I would not have replied... I went from a 2200, to a 2060... eekkk...</p>

<p>Dude I went from a 201 PSAT to a 2370 composite (expected). Just prep with the official collegeboard book and its official web-based course</p>

<p>March practice test on average M600V400W400
May/june SAT test M700V660W600</p>

<p>Wolffy-- point well taken, a voluntary sample is likely to be different than a random one.</p>

<p>here's another set of data that gives me hope that test takers really do improve as a group from one test to another.....of course the CAUSE is not ascertainable from these data.......and the test-taking populations are not the same across these following groups.......</p>

<p>PSAT 2004-2005 SOPHOMORES National means
CR 42.5
M 44.2
W 46.4
Ttl 133.1</p>

<p>PSAT 2004-2005 JUNIORS National means
CR 46.9
M 48.8
W 50.5
Ttl 146.2</p>

<p>SAT Reasoning 2005 SENIORS National means
V 508
M 520
Ttl 1028</p>

<p>So, if you look at soph to junior PSAT improvement, there's a 13 PSAT point gain (~130 SAT points), and on CR/V plus M from soph to junior to senior in SAT point equivalents, there's a 90 point gain soph>>junior & 71 point gain junior>>senior. Yes, different populations are being measured here (and different ranges relative to the CC population), but I'd expect that the improvements are biased low for the original soph test-takers. Also remember that these are averages, and YOUR test scores may not match the average, high or low.</p>

<p>In any case, the surest way to maximize your improvement chances is to stick by the age-old adages of solid preparation and rest prior to the test. & read, read, read.....</p>