How Much Do You think You Need to Retire/What Age Will You/Spouse Retire: General Retirement Issues (Part 2)

You can find like minded people in places that lean differently politically. I live in a red state and have had no trouble finding like minded people, including some who I disagree with politically.

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The cost of COBRA tells you the real cost of an employer-based plan.

Thanks, CT1417, bluebayou, and ucbalumnus, for clarifying re: the ACA plans and health history. I haven’t looked seriously into this (yet) - thinking of working for a number of more years, but want to plan for all kinds of scenarios…

Some like-minded people, mixed age folks, and beautiful nature are some of my top considerations for ā€˜Stage 2’ location! If I switch jobs I’m hoping to meet people through a new position/professional community in new locale…in my field there are amazing people of all ages…

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Sure. But many people never get COBRA coverage. And how many people who do know what the costs will be before they sign up (or at least request info about) COBRA coverage?

It’s supposed to be in your W2 every year now.

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I don’t recall seeing one of those total compensation statements recently, but our company shows the company contribution at Open Enrollment time.

With your Medicare PPO plan, are you costs higher if you use a non-preferred medical provider?

If you are not yet Medicare age, note that what you personally may pay for an ACA individual plan may differ from what it costs your employer to buy you the same coverage, depending on whether your employer’s demographics are high or low cost relative to what your age-based ACA individual plan cost may be.

https://healthcostinstitute.org/images/easyblog_articles/134/Age-Curve-Study_0.pdf shows the age / gender cost curves, although from 2002 and 2010 (pre-ACA). Today’s cost curves are probably similar, but at a higher level of cost.

Assuming you mean a Medicare Advantage PPO plan, it is expected, like with any PPO plan, that seeing an out-of-network provider will result in higher costs because:

  • The copayment / deductible / out-of-pocket maximum will be higher.
  • The out-of-network provider has not agreed to the insurance plan’s prices for the services, and the insurance plan’s coverage is based on the prices it negotiated with network providers. I.e. if the network provider price is $1,000, but the out-of-network provider’s price is $10,000, and the insurance plan covers 60% at out-of-network providers, it will cover $600 (60% of the network provider price of $1,000), leaving you with a bill of $9,400.
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@cbreeze

My Medicare Advantage PPO has no in and out of network. It is accepted by all doctors and medical providers who accept Medicare.

So…there is no difference in and out of network….

It’s a very good plan.

Does that make sense?

@ucbalumnus all Medicare Advantage Plans are not the same, as you can see by my response.

Does it call itself a PPO (which means ā€œpreferred provider organizationā€, implying some kind of in-network versus not)?

Or is it saying that its ā€œpreferred provider networkā€ is the set of Medicare-accepting providers (which is most, though not all, providers in the US) with no difference in coverage?

I sent you a message. This is off topic to this thread.

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When I used to visit my folks in Florida, my joke was that I was the ā€œyoung, hot oneā€. I was in my late 50’s at the time, LOL.

When we went to see S in SoCal we saw people of all ages and we loved that. Considering getting a AirBNB there for a awhile next winter.

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Oh, my friend and I were definitely the hotties in the building dh and I used to live in (friend is still there). The, ā€œDel Boca Vistaā€ from Seinfeld is reality!

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I think like spouses, there’s a right one that’s perfect for you!

Maybe it’s not the place for you but it’s perfect for someone else.

23 years ago my parents retired to an area that they loved. I couldn’t imagine at the time being in a place where all of these ā€œoldā€ people were. Well now I’m that age and where my parents are, most of the new residents are my age.

So like the commercial, maybe we are becoming our parents. Whether we want to or not. Maybe kicking and screaming.

I wonder if every generation kicks and screams into this age! :wink:

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This!

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We are pre retirement scouting. Right now we are renting right outside of Boston, but our home is NC. It’s funny about weather because we often find Boston and Raleigh to have similar temperature- within a few degrees. While MA gets more snow they know how to deal with it, so it has not bothered us.

I also agree that there are so many interesting people we have met in MA. It’s nice to be around the Millennials and hear about their interesting jobs and their excitement for them. I find that too in Raleigh- might be a location for you to check out.

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I don’t believe in perfect or ā€œa right oneā€ for spouses or places to live. There are a number of places I could live and be happy. And had circumstances been different, I would not have met my wife and would likely have met someone else and been happy with that life. And no way to evaluate which would have been better; just know that life would have been different than the one I have now.

Problem to me with chasing the perfect is when you find an imperfection, you are looking for someone/where else. Thats an endless chase.

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Lol! Maybe we could’ve met and been married!

People think I am so heartless for not believing in soulmates and one true love. Dude, if I go to a different college for grad school I wouldn’t have met dh. Take a different job at that college and likely wouldn’t have met dh. I love our house and neighbors and find it hard to imagine raising the kids anywhere else, but everyone but us has done that. :stuck_out_tongue: I am willing to move wherever my grandkids are.

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I personally am not interested in living in an area of primarily like minded people. I think that would be boring. However, I do want to live in an area of mostly open minded people. Much more interesting conversations regardless of the topic.

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