<p>I was just curious because most members here are attempting to get into Wharton, UPenn's engineering, and sciences, but are the chances of getting into accepted into the nursing department much less difficult? I was just wondering because my stats so far (I'm a junior) don't compare to most people on here, but at the same time they're trying to get into Wharton, and etc. So yeah responses would be nice thanks. If anyone is wondering, yes I'm a male... Oh yeah, does anyone know if UPenn favors individuals who have a sibling that already got accepted into the uni? (My sister is actually in the nursing program right now)</p>
<p>you're a male? your sister's here? you do know that almost everyone gets in who applies to nursing, right? if you want to be a nurse, go for it. but don't be a back-door douche.</p>
<p>Actually, 4 years ago (Class of 2007), 42.6% of applicants were admitted to the School of Nursing (scroll down to the second chart):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ivysuccess.com/penn.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.ivysuccess.com/penn.html</a></p>
<p>However, acceptance rates at Penn have gone down fairly significantly since then, so I assume that the Nursing School acceptance rate also has gone down.</p>
<p>You're just so much better than everybody, huh mattwonder?</p>
<p>Datdude, where the hell do you make these assumptions? You've really got to stop assigning your own personal judgments and value systems to the comments of others.</p>
<p>Joe, as a male applying to nursing you get a leg up because of the huge gender disparity in the field. Same goes for girls applying to engineering, and even to Wharton (albeit to a lesser extent). It's a fact of life - companies/recruiters beg Penn to give them more candidates from the minority gender, and the attention trickles down into admissions. If you've got a sibling in the program, (heck, at the U) you've got a huge leg up. Now, combine these factors with a pretty high acceptance rate for nursing to begin with (Ivysuccess really isn't a credible source) and you've got an excellent chance. </p>
<p>Datdude seems to interpret a high acceptance rate at a school to mean lower quality students. This isn't true at all. Penn nursing applicants are incredibly self-selective - they're all realistic candidates for admission. However, the applicant pool is incredibly small, and they're always trying to increase the size of the nursing program. This leads to a pretty high admission rate, especially for a legacy male in nursing.</p>
<p>Matt--</p>
<p>First, siblings don't qualify as legacies for admissions purposes:</p>
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Children and grandchildren of all University of Pennsylvania degree recipients are considered legacies during the undergraduate admissions process.
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<p>Second, do you have specific data that disputes the Ivysuccess stats? I've been following Penn admissions data for some time, and I'm confident that the Nursing School acceptance rates were close to--if not actually the same as--the rates reported by Ivysuccess. In addition to the 42.6% acceptance rate reported for the Class of 2007, Ivysuccess reported a 39.7% acceptance rate for the Class of 2008, and a 41.8% acceptance rate for the Class of 2009:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ivysuccess.com/upenn_2009.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.ivysuccess.com/upenn_2009.html</a></p>
<p>All of Penn's undergraduate schools have had significant increases in the number of applicants since the Class of 2009 was admitted, while the number of acceptances have stayed roughly the same. In fact, on another discussion board, admit rates by school were reported as follows:</p>
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Acceptance rate by school </p>
<p>2010: </p>
<p>Wharton: 475 / 3938 = 12.1% </p>
<p>College: 2,261 / 12,999 = 17.4% </p>
<p>SEAS: 775 / 2924 = 26.5% </p>
<p>Nursing: 112 / 391 = 28.6% </p>
<p>2009: </p>
<p>Wharton Overall: 13.6% (484/3558) </p>
<p>SAS Overall: 21.3% (2455/11474) </p>
<p>SEAS Overall: 32.0% (850/2656) </p>
<p>Nursing Overall: 41.8% (123/294)
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<p>Do the math, and you'll see that these numbers add up correctly, meaning that the Nursing School acceptance rate for the Class of 2010 was 28.6%.</p>
<p>Unless you have special access to Nursing School admissions data that is not otherwise public, you have no basis for assuming that the Nursing School acceptance rates have been anything other than as reported in this post.</p>
<p>even if that defines legacies as only children or grandchildren of penn alumni, there's a spot on the applications that says:</p>
<p>Please list the names and class years of parents, grandparents, or siblings who have attended the University of Pennsylvania.</p>
<p>so obviously having had a sibling attend plays somewhat of a role, although i'm sure not as great as having had a parent/grandparent attend.</p>
<p>Siblings aren't 'legacy' by definition (because we know 'legacy' has to mean there's potential for $$$ from the parents) but it's got much the same effect. A sibling who's had a positive experience at the school will benefit you greatly, particularly in small setting where there's a good chance the reader actually personally knows your sibling (like Penn nursing). </p>
<p>45%, you can't claim that Ivysuccess's statistics are legitimate. I don't have any better statistics, but that doesn't mean their stats are worth anything. Penn's said before that they don't release stats for the individual schools. I was wrong to say the rate is high, but your numbers in your post don't add anything to the discussion either. </p>
<p>At the end of the day, I think we see the problem with all of these chances threads. First, CC is mostly highschool kids talking to each other. What do they know? Even the folks at a school don't know anything more - Penn clearly doesn't publish enough information for us to be able to reverse engineer the process. At the end of the day all we can offer is the following: a meaningless yes/no vote, which has no real support, or we can skim through your numbers to tell you things to highlight or downplay. A 'minority' in a field (female in seas, male in nursing)? Play it up, they love to see you. From NJ, NY, PA? Play it down, it won't help you. The truth is that no one can take chances threads seriously because they don't convey the entire application and we certainly aren't the adcom. </p>
<p>My comment about "backdoor" was meant to discourage you from applying to nursing and then transferring to Wharton/another school. It's not entirely clear from your post that this isn't your goal (and unfortunately, there are so many people who do try the "backdoor" internal transfer that I can't assume you're not).</p>
<p>12.1%? Makes you wonder from which orifice the wharton chauvinists say 9%! Totally like half of SAS, zomg we're so much betterz lololz</p>
<p>^ Well, it was lower for the Class of 2011. With almost 2400 additional applicants for that class, only about 900 of those had to be Wharton applicants for the acceptance rate to have dropped below 10%.</p>
<p>mattwonder you didnt have to explain yourself, i thought it was pretty self-explanatory, and not at all offensive, what u said from your first post.</p>