How preciously rare is a scholarship for someone without a green card?

<p>I've been her 10 years and I don't have a green card. (don't ask) But it doesn't matter how long I've been here, I'm still an international student. I'm not eligible for the FAFSA because I don't have a social security number. And although I'm more qualified than most of my peers, they get money and I don't.</p>

<p>A lot of my friends received full rides to my state college. They said that it just appeared. They didn't even apply for anything and they got full rides. I looked tirelessly from time to time while trying to manage my courseload and other daily stresses and I got nothin.</p>

<p>I should have paid more attention to getting scholarships rather than looking for colleges out of state to apply fore (colleges that I can't afford anyway). That was a big mistake and I wish I can take it back. But I screwed up and now I can't find anything.</p>

<p>Can someone give me a realistic perspective on how many scholarships for international students there are at a state college?</p>

<p>I think you might have problems getting any sort of aid (merit, financial, etc…) if you actually live in the US and your parents cannot provide FAFSA and associated information (tax returns and all) - I assume your parents do not have SSNs and/or file taxes either? (Please correct me if I am wrong).</p>

<p>Individual states policies would vary regarding students in your situation as you might qualify as being an “in-state resident” regardless of your immigration status - so do check out your state universities’ websites for more.</p>

<p>Oh sorry, I’ve checked through your posts and you do have an H-4 visa. </p>

<p>In that case you will be treated the same as all other non-residents (except California - which I presume is where you are from) for admissions. Competition will be quite tough nonetheless.</p>

<p>yaganon -</p>

<p>You need to read through the threads in the Financial Aid forum. There have been several on just this topic. You are in the unfortunate position of being an international applicant for financial aid purposes. This means that there is no “safety” school for you if you need significant aid. Does your HS guidance counselor have much experience with H-4 visa candidates? If not, can he/she get in touch with someone who does?</p>

<p>Investigate the residence rules for public community colleges, and public colleges and universities in the state where you live. This is likely to be something that you have to check institution by institution. In some states, you would qualify as a state resident for tuition purposes. It is also possible that you may qualify for local tuition at a community college, but not at the public university in your state.</p>

<p>But first, you do need to sit down with your parents and/or whoever else it is who is going to be paying for your education. Find out just exactly how much money is available for your education. Then see if there is anything at all available in that price range in the US. If not, see if there is anything in that price range in your home country or elsewhere on the planet. Your best bet may be completing your higher education outside the US.</p>

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I just wanted to mention that private colleges tend to be much more generous with financial aid for international students. </p>

<p>I hope everything works out for you. Good luck!</p>

<p>guys, I’m already in college, I’m a freshmen now. Guess that doesn’t help my cause. I’m in Iowa, and my dad work for the university (I qualify for instate tuition). I’m planning on getting out of the H-4 Visa Status and move on to the F-1 (so I can work and get paid).</p>

<p>Financial aid is out of the picture until my dad finally comes up with green card. Scholarship is my only alternative for extra money for school besides work. </p>

<p>Sorry I didn’t specify that earlier.</p>

<p>I dunno. In one thread you was asking about pretending to be a high schooler so you can get a scholarship, and now you’re saying you are from another country. </p>

<p>I’m all for folks of all cultures and nationalities getting a good education. But I look down on those that come from other countries and search for a way to unlawfully obtain funding that Americans need themselves. I figure if you have enough money to come here, do so legally. And if you CAN do so legally, you can also do the same work and have the same results many of us have, too.</p>

<p>u gotta understand it sucks to just sit around and do nothing about it.</p>

<p>You’re killing me, yag. We all endure situations that suck. And then, if we’ve got any internal compass at all, we work hard to get ourselves out of them. You got yourself into this “sucky” situation by being unethical. You’ve been living a lie. There are ways to get yourself out of your situation that do not involve further deceit. You just don’t want to do them. You sound like you have an annoyingly profound sense of entitlement that I can’t even begin to grasp. At one time, you said something like, “What were parents supposed to do? Send me to community college?” And so, in your mind, that justifies lying on an official document? And now you think that lying about being a high schooler, to take money from generous donors, is justifiable because “it sucks to sit around and do nothing.” People like you scare me. Do you have no conscience??? Are you a sociopath?</p>

<p>simplelife what’s ur problem.
I ask a question about a thought that I had about a way I can get money for school and you got me all figured out? calling me unethical? how about you keep your shallow opinions to yourself and stop bashing my posts. idiot.</p>

<p>The simple answer for yag is not college, but these guys in fatigues with MP5s wearing ICE vests…</p>

<p>You bet you’re unethical, yag. Man, you come across like we owe you the right to go to school. Not so. You have the opportunity to go to school, just like Americans. But you gotta pay for it, just like us. You have no entitlements to free schooling, you have no right, IMO, to even complain about not getting free money for school. </p>

<p>I respect, highly, people that immigrate to America. LEGALLY immigrate, that is. Come through the gate, not under or over the fence. You have difficulty remembering the visa type you have. Maybe you’re here legally, I dunno. AND I don’t care. But when you are already talking about committing fraud so you can get free schooling, THEN I CARE.</p>

<p>Like I said, I highly respect people that legally immigrate to America. Those that don’t, I don’t care anything about. Zero rights, IMO. My blood came here legally. I expect no less from others.</p>

<p>Maybe I sound harsh, I don’t care. I’ve lost work to illegal aliens, and that hurts me, the business doing it, and my country.</p>

<p>Go home and get free schooling there.</p>

<p>why are you talking to me like I’m an illegal alien? And why do you say “we”? My initial thought wasn’t trying to impersonate a citizen. Yea it was illegal anyway, but why am I getting slammed like this just because I asked a question?</p>

<p>If you’re pssed off by people illegally crossing the borders don’t look at me. I only care about paying for My education. I burst your personal bubble by saying something that offended you… MY BAD… OK???</p>

<p>I mean easy with the sterotypes people.</p>

<p>Topolover, there is a difference between not having a green card and being an illegal immigrant. If you had followed yaganon’s thread in the College Life forum, you would know that he (?) has an H-4 visa, which means that one of his parents has an H-1 work visa. Sounds pretty legal to me.</p>

<p>I am sorry for yaganon and students like him. On the one hand, yes, from the perspective of an American citizen and taxpayer it makes a lot of sense not to give “free money” to foreign students to help them pay for college in the US. But on the other hand, yaganon has been in this country for so long that this is his home, regardless of his immigration status. It’s not quite fair for him to be sent overseas for college in another country, only because he happens to have a passport from that country, is it? </p>

<p>I assume you grew up in the US. Imagine you were a Croation citizen, but have spent most of your life in the US. There’s no difference between you and your American classmates except for your citizenship. Now come senior year in high school, imagine you were told that you would have to go to college in Croatia - a country you have no ties to, a country whose language you may not speak - because that’s the only financially feasible option. How would you feel?</p>

<p>yaganon may have contemplated dubious solutions to his dilemma in the past, but right now he is only looking for scholarships. What’s wrong with that?</p>

<p>Hi, can someone list all the top schools (like the Ivy League schools) that offer financial aid for international students and the ones that offer very limited? Also, does Canada count as international? thanks!</p>

<p>Take this questionnaire</p>

<p>are you a genius?
do you have some kind of legitimate national/international award(s)?
are you an underrepresented minority? (asian is the opposite)
<em>seems like a joke but I’m serious</em></p>

<p>If you say no to all of those above, you shouldn’t waste money on trying to getting in like I did. If you’re an international student showing a need for financial aid, they’d rather take some stupid immigrant kid who’s got parents that are insanely rich. Because without us citizen/permanent resident status, the university would have to provide the money for financial aid, not the government. Make sense?</p>

<p>b@r!um, what’s “wrong with it” is: </p>

<p>1) that yaganon is entirely comfortable contemplating unethical solutions to his problem (one that could have been foreseen and thwarted), AND</p>

<p>2) that it’s a problem that he (?) and his parents contributed to and/or at least tolerated up until this date, not only by accepting their non-citizen status, but also by signing the required documents acknowledging an ability and willingness to pay for his college when apparently that was not the case, AND</p>

<p>3) that yaganon somehow feels justified whining about his problem and resorting to unethical means to an end as though he’s ENTITLED to money simply because … I don’t really know! … because his parents have to pay a mortgage and plan for retirement at the same time he’s going to college!? Because his friends went to top privates and he can’t? Because scholarships are mostly for high school seniors or for kids who have the stats to earn large merit scholarships, not for non-citizens who are already in college with documents that commit to payment?</p>

<p>It’s offensive. It reeks of entitlement. His posts make him sound like he’s completely oblivious to the fact that MOST of us are in the same boat. Yaganon’s family has been here for 10 years, while yaganon has been growing older and nearing college. There’s no surprise here. Now he’s facing what just about everybody else is facing – extraordinarily high college expenses, with very little money, retirements to plan for, and mortgages to pay. Why does he think he deserves a rescue from that predicament more than anybody else? Scholarship money is nice – we should all be grateful and honored when we receive it. But nobody’s ever entitled to it.</p>

<p>He keeps bringing up his international status. Does he think that makes him especially entitled to avoiding the difficulty that all the rest of us are facing? One must admit – it’s an inflammatory issue. And a lot of people find it threatening. 10 years might have been long enough to gain citizenship, no?</p>

<p>Let’s give the guy a break and just answer his question.</p>

<p>He is in a very tough position. It’s very hard to get much aid as an international freshmen applicant but it’s insanely difficult as a transfer. There are a handful of schools that are need blind to international transfers, but they are all highly selective schools. If you have a great high school record, very high SATs, A near perfect college record (as Iowa is not very selective) and very interesting ECs, it’s certainly worth a try applying to them.</p>

<p>After That, the pickings are slim. It might be possible to get some merit aid if you have a lot to offer, but it would probably be tough to get anywhere near the in state, faculty kid tuition you’re paying now. Chances are your best bet is to try the ivies/top generous aid schools but make the best of Iowa if you don’t get in and focus on getting out for grad school.</p>

<p>SimpleLife, the OP is not in the same boat as every other American college student. The OP is in a situation where he has to afford college without federal/state financial aid and possibly *without loans<a href=“because%20it’s%20just%20about%20impossible%20to%20get%20a%20loan%20as%20a%20foreign%20student”>/i</a>. Many American students would be unable to attend college under these circumstances. </p>

<p>And please don’t misquote me. I said “He is only looking for scholarships. What’s wrong with that?” </p>

<p>1) Looking for scholarships is not unethical.
2) Since the OP did not need a student visa, he never had to sign a document saying “I can pay for all 4 years of college.” Enrolling in college with the resources to pay for 2 years and hoping to find funding to cover the rest (be it with a scholarship or a year off to work) is better than not attending college at all.
3) He thinks he is entitled to the opportunity to get an education, like all of his American peers. American students have that opportunity because there are federal grants and scholarships and loans available to them. Not so the OP. </p>

<p>The OP is in a very unfortunate position. Whining about his situation, as you call it, sure doesn’t help him but it is very understandable, isn’t it?</p>

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Now I know just how ignorant you are on that issue. No need to continue this discussion.</p>

<p>simplelife what’s really unethical is that you are wasting your time coming up with borderline irrelevant arguments just to make it look like I have blood on my hands. You completely other people’s perspective on what’s really fair and instead bases your definition of ‘unethical’ on your biased perspective, not common sense.</p>

<p>You reduced my threads into stupid arguments, and that’s all you did.</p>

<p>b@r!um, in another thread he was asking about impersonating a high school student so he can get a scholarship or grant.</p>