@intparent I think you meant to say “because so many more men apply.”
Wow @goldenbear202, I hadn’t seen it in black and white before. I just “knew” it was true. Of course unhooked girls DO get into very selective LACs so they should go for it. But I always encourage girls in particular to look off the East Coast, and to look at women’s colleges, to increase their options.
@IvyLeaguer225, this article covers it.http://articles.latimes.com/2004/nov/21/local/me-boys21
I think your theory is probably correct @rayrick.
Yes, that is what I meant.
If the school manages the class to close to 50/50 it can have a very big impact on which girls get in and which don’t. People that marginalize this aren’t thinking clearly. A few points on the acceptance percentage changes things a lot. It is not trivial.
Interestingly, Colby has the opposite problem.
Not sure if that “aren’t thinking clearly” comment was directed at me, but I merely said the acceptance rate difference for females and males at Middlebury is not huge. I never claimed it was negligible. And clearly the situation is even more acute at some of their peer institutions. Pomona – wow. Males 50% more likely to get in than females is a big deal.
It gets really big at Vassar, I think that one might be hardest for women. It’s slightly harder for women at most universities too but less still than at lacs. Harder for men at tech schools though.
“Pomona – wow. Males 50% more likely to get in than females is a big deal.”
@rayric first of all I agree with you that the difference between m/f acceptances is not huge at Midd, but the same is pretty much true at all of the above (except maybe Vassar). For Pomona, for example, the latest CDS shows they admitted 9.1% females and 12.1% males with an overall admit rate of 10.3%. Applying that to the actual numbers, if the admit rate was exactly the same for both genders, I’m figuring about 58 more females would have been admitted. So yeah, I guess it’s a big deal if you were one of those 58 (of which about 28 would have enrolled), but in the bigger scheme of things, maybe not so much… (BTW, I would argue that since selectivity can so easily be manipulated, it is highly overrated as a measure of prestige - or a lot of other things, for that matter). Oh, and back to the OP: Midd is a great school.
Very simple. It’s considered one of the finest educations in the United States
Actually, I’ve never met a Yale or Harvard grad who wasn’t perfectly happy to talk about college; it’s just as important a phase of their lives as it is to anyone else’s - perhaps, more so. Interestingly, phrasing their alma mater in terms of its host city doesn’t work quite the same way for other ivies. Saying, “I went ot college in Upstate New York” or “I went to college in New Jersey” doesn’t have quite the same effect, which is to invite the listener to guess (usually correctly) the name of the speaker’s school.
The name, “Middlebury” makes breaking the ice so much simpler.
“phrasing their alma mater in terms of its host city doesn’t work quite the same way for other Ivies” (#48)
Or can lead to disappointing consequences, such as when someone says she goes to school in Providence and it turns out she doesn’t attend RISD. Nothing against other Providence schools, but who doesn’t want to meet an artist?
Take that up with Gladwell
(I’ve had the same experience Gladwell has, many times, but I’m not remotely surprised that his experience isn’t universal, of course.)
Let’s see. I’m trying to think of other cases where it doesn’t quite work predictably. As I said, Middlebury doesn’t have that problem. Wellesley doesn’t have that problem. Hmm. Swarthmore, Bryn Mawr and Haverford don’t have that problem either. Oh, I have one: imagine trying to say, “I went to college in Amherst, Massachusetts.”
the entire prestige thing drives me nuts! it is absurd. I would look at some other LAC’s over middlebury .
one of them is laffeyette (but that is just me)
https://www.lafayette.edu/
Maybe, it’s a class thing. These colleges enroll a huge number of VIP offspring. When I was an undergrad, we never discussed what their parents did for a living. I remember riding in the back seat of a car driven by the son of Richard Nixon’s “of counsel”. No one. No one mentioned Watergate for the entire two hour ride to New York City. This was the summer of 1973.
To the posters who have said that where you go to undergrad doesn’t have a bit impact on graduate school, that’s unfortunately not true. Top graduate programs have a disproportionate number of students from a small number of top schools. If you don’t believe me, there’s a very easy way to check this out. Look at any of the top graduate programs and they list where the students went to undergrad. Overwhelmingly you see many of the same schools. Academics know colleges and universities well and top grad programs take people students from top undergraduate schools. A place like Middlebury, Williams, Hamilton, Amherst, etc., will in fact open up a lot more doors than a less prestigious school.
^ Can you please post the study in which you normalized the results for grades and scores?
Your choice of cc name might indicate a slight bias on this topic
However, @MultipleIvyGrad’s bias, should it exist, did not extend to the mentioning of any Ivy League schools in his post.