How strong is Brown's PRE-MED program? non-plme

<p>Hey, Does anyone know the quality of Brown’s premed program? Are they strong in areas like biological sciences and chemistry? i am talking about regular students, not PLME ones</p>

<p>It would be awesome if anyone can find Medical-School Acceptance Rates of Brown’s premed students</p>

<p>Brown's premed info was posted on CC a while ago. Search and you may find it. A Brown medical student "dcircle" had lots of discussions on this, so search under that name as well.</p>

<p>According to the post data, about 90% of those who applied to medical school were admitted somewhere. This does not include the PLME students, who do not apply, since they are already in Brown's medical school. Neither Brown, nor any other school I know of, includes the numbers who were initially premed, but dropped those plans due to poor grades. So the REAL success of students who enter as premeds is unknown at Brown, and everywhere else.</p>

<p>Bottom line, it is as good a place as any to do premed.</p>

<p>hmm, is it possible for anyone to find actual website that says 90%?</p>

<p>i can't seem to find it anywhere on their site</p>

<p>when i visited, i was told by an admissions officer that 85% of pre-meds get into their top choice medical school. i don't know if they have it up on the website, but it is an accurate statistic.</p>

<p>85% into their top choice? that looks like highly unlikely. maybe the adcom person meant any med school</p>

<p>yeah, i thought it sounded a little high too, but even if she did mean to say 85% for any medical school, its still pretty decent.</p>

<p>i'm a brown student. i'm 99% sure 85% get into their top 3 choices and 92-93% get in on their first try. the premed office releases those stats.</p>

<p>Any other comments on the premed program? How are your premed advisors and stuff. Also, I know Brown is awesome with grading...but how do people fare in premed required courses like orgo</p>

<p>The 90% figure was from documents distributed at a Brown premed info session. Someone scanned and posted them.</p>

<p>From earlier discussions, Brown students said that premed is quite collegial, not cut throat, but just as hard work, and demanding grading, as anywhere else. Brown students do well on the MCAT's- the great equalizer- because they learn a lot in their courses.</p>

<p>So would you guys say Brown is really strong in biological sciences and chemistry? or is it just good at advising and stuff?</p>

<p>harvardman, i think you might be misinformed about what it takes to get into a top medical school. incidentally, brown does have strong programs in the life sciences and in chemistry, but brown students do much better than average at getting into medical schools for a variety of other reasons. for one, brown students are highly motivated and brown pre-meds in particular tend to maintain high GPAs and get high MCAT scores--this is the single most important factor for med school. beyond this, brown accepts students who are independent thinkers and gives them the freedom to pursue unique courses of study. as a result, brown premeds tend to stand out for their atypical accomplishments--field research in the developing world, break throughs in the laboratory, recognition in the arts, etc.</p>

<p>hmm</p>

<p>ok, so Brown PLME students are bound to go to Brown med school right?</p>

<p>as in, they can't apply elsewhere?</p>

<p>Ha, ok so I just answered this on the other thread in more detail but the short answer is no. PLME students can apply out or drop out of the PLME program. But it's my opinion that you absolutely should not apply if you intend to use brown as a back-up and apply out.</p>

<p>Wait, I was under the impression that we could choose to apply to other Medical schools, while keeping Brown as a backup?</p>

<p>cuz other awesome med schools do that w/ its undergrad counterpart, like WUSTL</p>

<p>Yes, you CAN, I just don't think you SHOULD apply to PLME intending to use Brown med as a back up. It's just my opinion that that's kind of a sleezy thing to do. I answered this in more detail on the other thread. Btw, I didn't think that WUSTL had a combined undergrad-med program....?</p>

<p>I agree with thequaker. One should not accept a spot in PLME program if your intent is to transfer to another school for MD. </p>

<p>Even if this option is not entirely barred by Brown PLME, I doubt they would encourage such transfers. You would have deprived another individual who could have fulfilled the commitment to PLME.</p>

<p>Let's say you accept PLME and then in your 3rd year start applying to transfer out. You would need recommendations from Brown faculty. I do not see why they would be obliged to give recommendations to let you transfer out, especially since you had committed to the entire program to begin with.</p>

<p>I believe they probably keep the option open only incase of students having family issues/hardships and wish to transfer for other personal reasons?</p>

<p>I think they have the option of transfering out if your goals change throughout your college career, or if you find that you don't actually want to attend Brown med, and that option is respected by professors, but I really don't think you should go into the program with that option in mind. Honestly, if you apply to PLME not very enthusiastically about Brown/med school, with the plan of transferring out, you probably won't be admitted to the program.</p>

<p>Robokarabakian,</p>

<p>Thanks! Yes. I can see Brown faculty allowing a transfer if the student's interests change.</p>

<p>By the way, are you a PLME student or faculty?</p>

<p>Ha, no, neither. I just know a lot (like, a LOT) of PLMEs.</p>