<p>“Hint - those guys do not want women their own age. It is not a a issue of finding them; they do not even look for the.”</p>
<p>Yes, I get it. The comment being made was about what “society” thought. And “society” thinks 60 yo guys who go after 20 yo women are creepy, and think they should stay in their own age range.</p>
<p>A cute little anecdote: My parents were divorced some years ago, and my dad, as a handsome and well-to-do bachelor, was quite in demand, so he had no shortage of women offering to fix him up with their (divorced or widowed) lady friends. Let’s say he was 60 at the time - so these women were generally between 50 and 60. I would have been 38 at the time (I’m the oldest child). He got matched up with one woman and as they went on their date, he found out she was around 40. He finished the date, but politely excused himself from any further contact between it would have been gross for him to have gone out with a woman essentially his daughter’s age. That’s what a gentleman does. I still maintain no one is “impressed” with the 60 yo who shows up with the 20 yo arm candy, except maybe Hugh Hefner.</p>
<p>If the young women lose their jobs later in life for having funded college this way and the men don’t, the men are absolutely getting a free ride.</p>
<p>“If the young women lose their jobs later in life for having funded college this way and the men don’t, the men are absolutely getting a free ride.”</p>
<p>These young women certainly know that this is not something to write home about. They make the choice.</p>
<p>While I have little respect for men who engage in this sort of thing, I do not think the answer is to focus on what the men are doing. Women have to decide that we are better than this and look for options other than exploiting ourselves to get what we want or need. We don’t have any direct control over what men do, but we can control the outcomes by our own responses.</p>
<p>What I find most troubling about this is that the practice seems to be “seeping upwards”. I think the posters who have pointed out that this trade is as old as time are correct. But it used to be that men, if they chose to go this route, might attract a certain type of woman - pretty and cooperative no doubt, but usually not the type you could bring to a high level corporate event. Many of these women were one night stands or if an attachment was formed, ones they would secret away in a pied a terre somewhere. The men were forced to compartmentalize the relationship in most cases. </p>
<p>The woman described in the linked article does not seem to fit that description. I think she is taking a huge risk in a lot of ways - risking her reputation at the university and her future prospects. The risk to the stability of her own self worth is evident. </p>
<p>If you have a child or children together with a man, I have trouble seeing that as a sugar daddy relationship, unless we’re expanding the definition to include most marriages with an economic imbalance.</p>
<p>I think the men who do this are exploiters who should be ostracized by decent people. The idea that they can gain approval by bringing their young exploitation subject to a social event is pretty sick, in my opinion.</p>
<p>And they are usually of the same loathsome and predictable template -insecure, aging men who are looking for outside validation of their manhood or lost vitality. These are not men who age gracefully or with much dignity. They usually end of embarrassing themselves or being taken advantage of by women similar in nature to V Stiviano.</p>
<p>“I think the men who do this are exploiters who should be ostracized by decent people. The idea that they can gain approval by bringing their young exploitation subject to a social event is pretty sick, in my opinion.”</p>
<p>Don’t you think they already are, though? I mean, don’t most decent people think the 60 yo who pops up with the 20 yo bimbo isn’t exactly the epitome of class?</p>
<p>In certain circles, a much younger partner, especially if very attractive, is a sought after accessory.
It implies virility, as the RNA has a greater opportunity to replicate, and it implies that the male has other attributes to attract a young woman.</p>
<p>But anecdotally, I see it less often, than say in the '80’s, although relatively powerful men do seem to prefer women who appear ten to twenty yrs younger than they are, and who spend a great deal of time on maintenance to continue to do so.
I wouldn’t assume a 22 yr old dating a 45 yr old is a bimbo or a goldigger. They may be judging men their age by the ones they met at frat parties.
Personally, I like younger men. They are remarkably enlightened compared to many my age and older.</p>
<p>No, I don’t think there are many (any?) social consequences for captains of industry who do this. They perceive, correctly, that they can get away with almost anything. And the people they want to impress are other old guys like them. They don’t care about my opinion (in the unlikely event that I’m invited to the party).</p>
<p>Well sometimes the consequences ARE pretty dire for allowing yourself to become entangled with people whose major focus is your money. Certainly Mr. Sterling can attest to this.</p>
<p>That’s certainly true. Though we don’t have any evidence of other LA bigwigs treating him differently before he got himself into a blackmail situation.</p>
<p>Not only do they perceive correctly they can get away with this, many of them also enjoy the anger and criticism they receive from others…especially women. The latter is a mix of “devil may care” with “They’re just jealous they’re not 20something/younger” or something along those lines. Observed plenty of this while hanging out with colleagues in the downtown/midtown bars after working a 10-12 hour day on occasion. </p>
<p>Keep in mind that for this group…to be accused of being a “gentleman” in the sense PG and others are using it would be regarded as hurtful as verbal kryptonite to older men like these. </p>
<p>“Keep in mind that for this group…to be accused of being a “gentleman” in the sense PG and others are using it would be regarded as hurtful as verbal kryptonite to older men like these.”</p>
<p>How ironic that is. I think women of ALL ages are truly impressed by a man who conducts himself like a gentleman. Getting that persona down can go a long way in attracting women. I remember the most sought after guy in my law school class was the consummate gentleman - not the best looking guy in the class but the type that would stand if a woman walked into a room. We all had a crush on the guy. No surprise he was still dating his college girlfriend and of course ended up marrying her.</p>
<p>Call me cynical, but I don’t think these guys give a rat’s patoot what most women think of them except the woman they are with. And they get a lot of reinforcement from the men around them, IMHO. We 50-ish women can look down our noses all we like at it, but society applauds these guys for the most part.</p>
<p>I think you are right @intparent but my point was that being a gentlemen would attract more women. I thought it was ironic that that they would consider that moniker an insult.</p>