How to deal with anticipated disappointments

<p>I know this is still the middle of February and April 1st is a long way off, and I also know that there are many old threads on this topic, but I would like to start a new thread anyway :)</p>

<p>My D, a high-stats high-acheiving h.s. senior, has sent in RD applications to a fairly well-balanced list of 11 colleges of varying selectivity. She is already in at her safety which is a great school that will provide a fine education. But I get the sense that deep down, she is only truly enthusiastic about four of the 11 colleges she has applied to: three of these accept about 7-8% of applicants and the fourth accepts about 20%. I get the sense that she will be pretty disappointed if she is rejected from all three 7-8% schools and really really bummed out if she is rejected from the fourth (20%) school. </p>

<p>I am sitting here, wondering what I can do or say (or not do and not say) in the next few weeks to help her prepare for the anticipated disappointments. Any suggestions?</p>

<p>wow- facing same again- having gone through this once before, it did not really improve until after D started college and even then some rationalization through the years and actually by graduation from college alot of thankful comments by her where she ended up. i think it basically took time. she realized her friends some of whom went to her first choice school did not have it better than her. it helped to get involved in college. time.</p>

<p>I think our kids can read us like a book. If you’re concerned about her being disappointed already and she hasn’t even had a rejection, I think you should step back a bit. The last thing you want her to think is that you’ll be disappointed if she doesn’t get into one of her top choices. Even if you’re just disappointed about her disappointment. </p>

<p>I think I’d try to keep the college app process out of the household air for now- all she can really do is wait, and if she can keep busy with school and her activities and family fun she’ll have less time to worry about it and will be less invested in the outcome. In the meantime, I’d suggest acting like you’re not concerned at all (come to CC instead to vent and worry ;)) - after all she’s going to a great college- she’s been accepted to one already. Congratulations, btw! </p>

<p>It’s likely that she’ll get into one her her first choices, but if not, the less it matters to mom and dad, the easier it is for our kids to feel good about the choices they do have.
Sometimes even caring about their feelings too much is too much pressure! I have a sensitive one, so I know this firsthand.</p>

<p>It’s okay to be disappointed. We have to learn how to handle it or we can only live our lives doing things we are sure we can do, apply for jobs we know we’ll get and never pushing beyond the comfort zone. How boring!</p>

<p>When PMK jr. got turned down two months ago at his first choice, early action college, he was disappointed but he was also ready to move on and in hindsight that was the best prep we had encouraged him to do. To dream about plan A but also craft plans B, C and so on that he was really excited about. We also had emphasized how proud we were of him for taking this chance and repeated that after the rejection letter arrived. It’s brave to put your heart on the line!</p>

<p>I believe, and have shared with my son, that there is no one dream school, one soulmate or one perfect job; there are multiples of all of those things. We just have to learn how to recognize them when we see them. The college application process can build that muscle.</p>

<p>Be pragmatic. Tell her “on the last week of March we are buying preciously one box of Kleenex and one carton of ice cream. If you get great news, then we start with the ice cream. If you are disappointed, you can cry your way through one box of tissues and then have the ice cream. Either way, I expect you to be a good person and have a great life.”</p>

<p>I get SOOO tired of students AND their parents who put so much weight on this college acceptance stuff. We get all this handwringing and grief. Guess what? Even if she is rejected by every single school she still has a back up plan. Nobody died. No one lost a baby or a limb. </p>

<p>Seriously folks, I had a friend who developed cancer while pregnant. It was aggressive and she had to have chemo right away. After months of worry, the baby was born but soon died due to a bizarre genetic condition (unrelated to the chemo). She had to go into the OB GYN office with “no boobs, no hair, no baby.” She cried lots of tears and went on to find a different path to being a mom. She would have loved to have had only the disappointment of a college rejection. </p>

<p>Talk to your kids. Talk to them about the kids eating dirt in Haiti. Put this college acceptance stuff in perspective with the rest of the world. </p>

<p>One box of kleenex. That’s it. After that, it is time to get off the sofa and get on with living.</p>

<p>^^^^</p>

<p>Very true…</p>

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<p>Of course this is not the same as a death or serious illness, but that doesn’t mean that the disappointment of rejection is easy for a student or that the OP’s concerns are frivolous or invalid. This, after all, is a college admissions discussion board, not a board devoted to questions of deadly diseases or global catastrophe. </p>

<p>VP: I know this is hard. Although one of my kids got into his top choice college EA, we were in the breath-holding-till-April pattern with the other kiddo several years before. For now, I think the best you can do is try to be cautiously optimistic and avoid too much agonizing – at least out loud. Again, I know it’s not easy, but I think our kids take cues from us more than we realize. I wouldn’t do too much to try to prepare her for bad news that may or may not come. I would try to stay low-key – not talk about any of it all that much, except perhaps to try to revisit some of the strong points of her match schools. If the news in April isn’t good (and I bet there will be some good news!) the best you can do at that point is to be your D’s head cheerleader. Offer support. Acknowledge the pain. Cry with her for a short while. Then look towards the future and do your best to help her move on to weigh the acceptances she has.</p>

<p>I know right now this seems like the hugest thing, and to some kids and parents it really is. I don’t see handling it any different than any other teen crisis, say the “big break-up” or not making the varsity team, band, whatever.</p>

<p>Listen to as much as they want to talk about, get the family out to a really nice dinner somewhere, throw the subject in there lightly to get the elephant out of the room and let them process it.</p>

<p>Under similar situation a few weeks back here, the change in attitude about the whole thing happened during a bathroom break - Dad says DS must have had a “come to Jesus” moment in there, whatever, but he moved on quickly. I think seeing that he still had everything else the same, his family etc., made him see things more clearly.</p>

<p>Bad things will always happen, this might be the first step for some in figuring that out, learning how to handle it is a great life-skill.</p>

<p>I have never, ever in my life found it helpful to be told, when I’m upset or disappointed about something, that there are other people in the world who are worse off. (As if I didn’t already know that.) Nor do I know anyone else who’s found it helpful to be told that, or who feels better after hearing it. I know it’s intended to help people put things in perspective, but all it usually accomplishes is to make them feel dismissed and trivialized.</p>

<p>^ agreed
besides, our kids are smart enough to already realize that, and the LAST thing a teenager (or anyone) wants is to be preached at about how “lucky” they are.</p>

<p>To be disappointed is human. Anyone who got their first disappointment until HS is pretty lucky. </p>

<p>By applying to 11 colleges, your D has made a good plan. My S applied to 5 only. </p>

<p>We talked about the possible rejections. I am sure it will hurt on the big date. I am also sure he will get over it.</p>

<p>best of lucky to your D. </p>

<p>PS. why did not your D do a couple EA or ED?</p>

<p>Find those hidden things to love about the schools that do accept her. Grieving and disappointment are part of the process.</p>

<p>I know one young lady who was accepted at 10 of her 11 schools. (Not my D who did not have such an impressive record.) She got a full ride to both Rice and Duke.</p>

<p>But she cried and cried that H rejected her. </p>

<p>Then she went to Yale and now insists it’s a much better school than H. LOL.</p>

<p>I really do believe in most cases kids end up where they’re supposed to. I’m not usually this mystical in my approach, but I’ve just seen it happen many times.</p>

<p>My S was rejected at his ED school. Deferred first, and then outright rejected. When he surveyed his acceptances (including a more selective Ivy that he didn’t choose) he had a “What was I thinking?” and wondered how the adcom could have known he wasn’t a fit.</p>

<p>He is a perfect fit at the school he chose.</p>

<p>Good luck to your D. Many have gone before her in this peculiar rite of passage we’ve created. And good luck to you. I think it hurts us more than it hurts them in the end.</p>

<p>Agree with others. Throwing out everything but the kitchen sink Olymom(floods,earthquakes,hurricanes,cancer) to your child when all they want is to be supported by their parent does not help.</p>

<p>Actually, I agree that it is no fun to be lectured right in the middle of a personal crisis. That’s my whole point. Talk about perspective BEFORE a “crisis” unfolds. Give the kid a pattern to follow so the kid doesn’t have to ad lib the upset. </p>

<p>We cry. We eat. We talk. We make a plan. Those four simple sentances communicated now set the stage – not just for the college rejection scenario but for other tough times to come. Emphasis here on “WE”. The family member is not alone in the process.</p>

<p>Mythmom is right when she posts that “it hurts us more than it hurts them”. Again and again I’ve seen kids at school, on the playground, at camp, at theater that go through a crisis and move on, leaving their parents to (sometimes viciously) to stomp around in the swamp of anger and disappointment. Having a plan for dealing with tough news helps the parent too.</p>

<p>Was I supported in my teenage losses? Having parents who survived the Depression and WWII, I knew exactly where my challenges fell in terms of the world. They were terrific parents in that they 1) taught history – both general and family and 2) told me constantly that they valued tenacity and generousity (two qualities any person can choose to have). </p>

<p>I was cherished without being put on a pedestal. </p>

<p>About a dozen years ago I attended a speech at the University of Illinois by a European woman who had studied pre-schools around the world. (Cool PhD topic!) She said that Americans (“particularly Californians”) were hugely into teaching high self esteem to preschoolers. This was in contrast to the rest of the world – and she gave examples of what parents would typically say in different countries (I remember Uganda was mentioned as a place where work effort was praised and good manners were praised in Sweden). The speaker went on to say she was deeply concerned about what we were doing to American kids because of the expectations the kids seemed to have of what would be unfolding in their lives. </p>

<p>She changed my life. I tried to incorporate more emphasis on manners and work effort with what we were saying to the guys. She really opened my eyes to the language families around me were using. It was unnerving!</p>

<p>Later on, I heard a teen therapist here in Olympia talk about treating teens with entitlement issues. (I began to realize that there are some blessings to being financially limited – our guys had never had a tantrum because they lacked a sports car – such a thing never even occurred to them!). But the therapist went on to say how miserable some of her patients were – they expected their parents lifestyle to be the starting place for their own lives (ie, they would BEGIN with a house, cars, etc) – and when that wasn’t reality, it was depressing and overwhelming. Re-aligning what they had been told as youngsters with reality was a brutal business. </p>

<p>So, yesterday I read this piece in the Atlantic. I’ll post part of it below. </p>

<p>[How</a> a New Jobless Era Will Transform America - The Atlantic (March 2010)](<a href=“http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/201003/jobless-america-future/2]How”>http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/201003/jobless-america-future/2) Part of it reads:</p>

<p>In her 2006 book, Generation Me, Twenge notes that self-esteem in children began rising sharply around 1980, and hasn’t stopped since. By 1999, according to one survey, 91 percent of teens described themselves as responsible, 74 percent as physically attractive, and 79 percent as very intelligent. (More than 40 percent of teens also expected that they would be earning $75,000 a year or more by age 30; the median salary made by a 30-year-old was $27,000 that year.) Twenge attributes the shift to broad changes in parenting styles and teaching methods, in response to the growing belief that children should always feel good about themselves, no matter what. As the years have passed, efforts to boost self-esteem—and to decouple it from performance—have become widespread.</p>

<p>These efforts have succeeded in making today’s youth more confident and individualistic. But that may not benefit them in adulthood, particularly in this economic environment. Twenge writes that “self-esteem without basis encourages laziness rather than hard work,” and that “the ability to persevere and keep going” is “a much better predictor of life outcomes than self-esteem.” She worries that many young people might be inclined to simply give up in this job market. “You’d think if people are more individualistic, they’d be more independent,” she told me. “But it’s not really true. There’s an element of entitlement—they expect people to figure things out for them.”</p>

<p>So, the college rejection process is an opportunity for us all. We can teach that this is a time to perserve in life.</p>

<p>Thanks for the responses. My D is no stranger to disappointment- she has had to face plenty of rejections and losses. Competitive summer programs, music auditions, and debate tournaments have given her many opportunities to learn how to deal, and move on. So in that sense I don’t think she will need more than a few Kleenex tissues- certainly nowhere near a full box! And while I appreciate the point that this is no life-threatening crisis, it <em>is</em> something important that has worked towards and the news she gets on April 1st <em>will</em> significantly impact her life for the next 4 years and possibly beyond. I can think of a lot of other things that teenagers get involved in that are more trivial than what colleges they get into.</p>

<p>What I am more concerned about is the effect a string of rejection letters might have on a young woman’s level of self-esteem and confidence. She is an ambitious, optimistic and confident person and thinks she has a pretty good chance of getting into one of her top choice schools. I am hopeful that she will be proven right, but worry that she might be blindsided by a lot of rejection letters. I am just trying to find out if there are things I can do (or not do) now that might help prepare her for that possible outcome. </p>

<p>I like the idea of keeping it low key and not letting her sense that I might be disappointed, even if I am only disappointed about her being disappointed! Any other tips?</p>

<p>I tell my senior that there are many great colleges and he will be accepted to at least one of them. If he opens his heart and mind to all possibilities, this will be a wonderful time for him.</p>

<p>while it sounds like an excuse, make sure she realizes that you realize that some admissions are a crap-shoot. The same stats/ECs/essays do not all result in the same conclusion. Colleges are building a class, not just picking individuals. This might be the year XX college wants scientists or artists but has no room for another trombonist, no matter how great he/she is. A rejection, though it seems that way, is not necessarily a rejection of HER, just not what they need that particular year. She’ll get into one or a few colleges where she is just what they’re looking for - how great is that?!</p>

<p>So tell her that you are worried – not about her talents or her worth but about her being really hurt. Let her roll her eyes and go “Dadddddd” – even that helps her get ready for April 1.</p>