<p>Are intramural sports any good if you are attending a Div 1 school? (you have to be insanely good to be on varsity).</p>
<p>"SEO is unneeded if you're at a target school, which he is."</p>
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<p>If he can get his internship through UCB then there's no need for him to do SEO where he may be faced with co-workers who feel the only reason he was admitted was due to being a minority.</p>
<p>UCB is a target and places quite well. A good number of investment banks-- even elite boutiques (lazard) recruit there, especially to fill their west coast offices. So -you- are the one that's wrong.</p>
<p>From the pictures of employee profiles on ibank websites, the people dont' look good looking at all. And what really is the point of being physically fit to enter ibanking, theyr'e going to get fat when theyre analysts, it won't really matter. I do think that athletes do tend to have higher confidence, so that might be a key factor, but you don't need that to be confident, and the places where the real money is made requires more brains than brawn anyways.</p>
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<p>Typically if you're more fit you'll be able to work longer without being tired (good for all nighters). A lot of banks have gyms inside which helps with that.</p>
<p>^do anaylsts/associates ever have free time during the day to use the gym or is it only MDs or people in other departments that get time to use it?</p>
<p>Your statement was: "SEO is unneeded if you're at a target school, which he is." That's a generalization that is obviously incorrect. You're basically saying that without SEO as long as someone is at a "target school" they will still be able to get the same sought after internship. That is simply not true in most cases. SEO is not even relevant here because of the candidates race in the first place, but if it was I would strongly recommend it based on the testimony of people I know that have gone to "target schools" but have still benefited from the program. It would be foolish to assume that graduating from a top school is a direct pipeline to a coveted job at a top IB. SEO helps you get coveted internships during college, which in turn gives you an advantage in the job market independent of SEO once youve graduated.</p>
<p>While not a requisite, I am under the belief that a tall, good-looking, white male will immediately command respect in an interview and a job setting. Granted, these factors have nothing to do with job performance but impression is a big deal and those who exert confidence will probably command respect.</p>
<p>That is a good point andrw, but look at some high profile bankers, Milken, Quattrone, etc., they don't fit the tall good looking type. But first impressions do count, so I guess in some aspects it is true.</p>
<p>Many studies have been done that taller people not only do better in life, but also may be overall smarter than their shorter peers (found on AOL news a couple of days ago). Physical presence has a lot to do with commanding attention and respect from your peers, colleagues, bosses, ect. It is people’s first perception of you and it does make an impact. I don’t think you have to be white male, but it certainly doesn’t hurt for the most part. </p>
<p>Also, I know I am beating a dead horse, but investment banks like athletes because of their time management skills and their ability to get the job done under pressure. From DI to DIII levels, successful athletes will dedicate AT LEAST 40 hours plus a week to their sport and when they get in season much more. Plus, they have a good taste in their mouth for what business is like if they play college sports. Negotiating between coaches, trying to get into the best place you can with the most money etc is a huge part of their high school career, and I’m a GIRL!</p>
<p>Furthermore with regard to the thread title, “how to get an internship at a top ibank,” freshman going into their sophomore years don’t get those internships unless your dad is Trump or Gates, so you might as well find another way to build your resume even if it means doing something unpaid. And freaking relax, you only have a bit left to still be a kid. You will work the rest of your life so it is ok if it doesn’t happen right away. And besides you never know when being a good friend with a professor or counselor or the lunch lady might end up being your very best contact. </p>
<p>I am a junior at Stern, and I only know a handful of kids going into their junior year that have good ibank internships and the kids that do are not the run of the mill kids. They are 3.6 and above with eboard positions in and out of Stern and may play sports.</p>
<p>OP:
You say you want to work at GS? Why? I've seen very few people give me an actual answer to the question other than "they are the best," which doesn't mean much.</p>
<p>Learn about the industry, learn about finance, learn about different groups at a bank, decide what section of banking you want to work in, then pick a firm.</p>