How to tell a friend I don't think you'll get in

<p>I have this friend (This really is my friend not me) Anyway. She has a 2.9 GPA 1080 SAT. Taken AP Bio, AP World, AP US. Her only ECs are 1 year of JV Track and this year she's pres of the multi. culture club. Oh and she has a job.</p>

<p>And she's applying to...
UVa
NYU
JMU
Georgetown</p>

<p>am I crazy or are all these schools reaches for her. ( She is African American but I don't think this will help her a lot)</p>

<p>I usually just tell my friend, "that's a hard school to get into, are you looking into any safeties?"</p>

<p>hey..you never know..my friend [she is african american as well] got into vanderbilt with a 1080 or so [taken twice]...her ECs are ok...i think she got in because her essay was killer...she is really passionate. Just tell your friend to work harder...and hey!..she has a job...the adcom might say that she comes from a poor family or something...you just never know. i really dont think ppl should be discouraged from applying to top colleges just because their stats are little low...there are some ppl that got into ivy league schools with average scores [1000 or so and mid-500 on SAT IIs with no hooks other than the fact that they are too good to turn down. Sure the stats are low but you never know what happened the day they took the test shoot!..i could not breath the day i took my test...i was having chest problems and stuff] although that is rare there are still some. Just tell your friend to keep trying and tell her to retake her SAT...adcom like ppl who keep trying.</p>

<p>just recommend some safeties but don't say you don't think she'll get in...tell her how many safities you or people you know have applied to...even it she was a shoe-in for these places, she would still want a few safety schools</p>

<p>just say:" nah, you are reaching man, u should pick some safeties"
or if you hate this person:"you'll never get in, you are 2 stupid!"</p>

<p>mm help her out with her essays...but suggest safties for her.. be like come on apply for fun..or smthing like tht so as to not hurt her feelings</p>

<p>what about this scenario: my friend applied to several reaches (Duke, cornell, Yale) to which she's probably going to be rejected due to pretty weak EC's- her cornell interviewer actually told her to her face that she probably wouldn't get in. This shouldn't be a problem, though, because she's already accepted it. However, she also applied to Northwestern and has never had any doubt that she'll get in...I foolishly encouraged that because I didn't really realize how competitive Northwestern is. (1460, 4.0 uw --> automatic admit, or at least that's what I thought). I'm worried about her reaction if when April 1 rolls around, she isn't accepted...her self-esteem is already really fragile. She did apply to several safety schools, however, so that shouldn't be a problem. Any advice on what I should do, if anything?</p>

<p>there's no need to tell them that, just talk about how hard it is to get in to some places</p>

<p>and then tell them how grad school = more important</p>

<p>print off some stats about the school. show them. they will break down but be happy to finally figure it out. or kill themselves over it. either way it wont be your problem any more.</p>