They have telegraphed hikes, it’s the amount that matters.
First it was 25 basis points, then 50, now 75. Some are asking for 100 to stop the death by a thousand cuts.
I have access to some macro economic conference calls by money managers. Ill post the highlight here at a later time. Of course as you stated, these are all just guesses.
Economics is a wonderful thing. You state your opinion and pray that you’re right - the financial equivalent to a meteorologist.
Right. A Wharton professor has stated that the market has already baked in a recession; and Goldman cited two or three things that tell them a recession is unlikely and the market will recover what it’s lost by 12/31.
I may be missing something, but they both are not likely right.
Man I wish I had a crystal ball.
Jeremy Siegel has always been extremely bullish and has been correct.
There is a Mexican standoff between Morgan Stanley and Goldman.
In economic terms, any information that truly can be widely known will be discounted in current valuations and financial activity. That is, a known recession would already be here.
In actual market behavior terms, the “known” part of your statement is not a prerequisite to the market doing or not doing anything.
That’s why serious economic study today is interdisciplinary. If I had it to do over again, behavioral economics - the marriage of economic theory and psychology - would be an attractive area of focus.
We can simply look back to 2008/2009…
The 1% were unaffected and proceeded as though nothing were wrong. 300K (2022 dollars) was really not something of concern even if their net worth dropped from 10MM to 6MM.
The bottom quartile were unaffected. They never had anything to begin with in terms of funds for college, and you can’t lose what you don’t have. The best of this group find their way to T20’s at an increasing rate to this day.
The “in between” was where the action was:
In short- vulnerable schools will continue to pay a price and disappear and/or consolidate. Middle class kids will attend publics in even greater numbers.
Elite schools will be unaffected.
I would think students/parents would think twice about taking out big loans with high interest and look to lower cost solutions.
Agree with this assessment.
Some did have something to lose, which was jobs and associated income. In addition, student part time work to help pay for college was less available. Going from lower middle to poor, or poor to dirt poor, can still be a meaningful household financial difference.
Yes, it can still be a meaningful houseful difference financially. With respect to paying for college, not so much, as these families would qualify for the same types of financial aid (or more) and virtually none of them would have had the financial wherewithal to be writing big checks for tuition, as even in-state public school tuition would be a hefty percentage of their income prior to the recession, much less for out-of-state or private colleges.
agreed- this is why I believe they were unaffected to some degree, at least with respect to college applications and what they could afford.
Obvious there were broader impacts, but their ability to afford college was likely unaffected.
One situation in which low income students could be affected - if they are needed at home to supplement household income. This could be a big effect in some immigrant households where the 18 year old is the most fluent in English, is legal, etc.
I read about this FGLI Amherst professor who used some of his FA money to help his family pay utilities, rent. I could see more of this in a recession.
Foreign students (full pay) could increase in number at some schools.
Enrollment goes up during recessions, which makes my higher-ed job really secure. Most of those enrollments are generally state schools because costs are cheaper and more predictable than private schools.
State schools usually have stable tuition levels during non-recessions. But when state revenues fall while other state services increase in costs during recessions, state school funding gets cut, resulting in tuition increases during recessions.