<p>I… see. Well, yes, it is how appealing you are to the admissions office. People with certain grades, scores, classes, essays, activities, and the like “appeal” to them.</p>
<p>However, no one should make judgments on personal value based on a school’s admission decision. There job isn’t to pick the best people, it’s to pick who they think would be the best students for their school. Other schools might not agree, but the same goes for those schools, too.</p>
<p>UVAorbust: not to be rude or anything, but just get over it! As you already stated, you’ve been accepted to 2 colleges. Not to mention the fact that your username is UVAorbust. So UF obviously wasn’t a top priority for you. Plus, just because you have a 33 and a 3.85, doesn’t mean you should assume that you’re for sure in. If that was the case, application would be machine generated, and you would get a decision immediately. No one on the admission committee had it out for you, so there are def justified reasons as to why you were denied admission. It’s really not the end of the world. And again, it seems like you are/have applied to a plethora of other schools, so… Point is, no need to beat yourself up over a rejection. it happened to over 14,000 people today, and unfortunately, you were one of them. Just pick your head up, and move on. And if you really really want to go to UF, Then start your appeal process.</p>
<p>UVA - Having Florida prepaid makes you instate for tuition purposes, but not for admissions decisions.</p>
<p>It is a total lie that the Florida university system schools do not discriminate on the basis of residency in admissions. They are required to by Florida law. I can explain this further to you if you need me to.</p>
<p>I am sorry you were lied to about the preference for Florida residents in the admissions process, but it is a bold face lie that out of state residents are considered the same in the admissions process. The Florida universities need to stop lying to out of state residents.</p>
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<p>That statement by the dean could be interpreted as “We do not discriminate against our out of state students” as opposed to the false “We do not discriminate against our out of state applicants.”</p>
<p>HarrietH is no doubt correct. After browsing hordes of statistics, there is no doubt OOS are admitted on a space available basis. Also, I do believe that Florida law and funding have something to do with this.</p>
<p>If one were to go true conspiracy-theorist, one could accuse UF of “misleading” OOS students about the admissions process as to not scare them out of their application and application fee ;).</p>
<p>Florida law requires that the University wide system have a student body composed of at least 90% Florida residents. Any one university can have less, but the university system as a whole must not have less than 90% Florida residents. </p>
<p>The only way for the university system not to have to discriminate against non-Florida residents in the admissions process is for the universities to receive less than 10% of their applications from out of state applicants. However, the lower cost of higher education in Florida compared to other states has resulted in Florida schools seeing an increase in the number of out of state applicants. The only way to maintain the 90% rule is to discriminate against out of state applicants.</p>
<p>Being in state for tuition purposes is not the same as being in state for admissions purposes. If someone told you it was, either that person was an ignorant fool or you were lied to.</p>
<p>As disappointing as it may be, you obviously still have options. I live in Virginia, but have Florida Pre-Paid and residency (dad’s in the Navy), so I can tell you a few things. UVA is really nice and has great programs. I would have applied, but I have a better chance at finaid in Florida. If UVA is your dream school then get over not being accepted to UF. UF and UVA are both sometimes called public ivy, so getting accepted to either is a privilege and an honor. As for pre-paid, it can be applied out-of-state. Yes, you lose a lot of the value, but at least it’s something.</p>
<p>Statistically, you’re on a track for getting in to a good school, and you know that. Next time, though, it’s a good idea to have an actual backup plan. As mentioned in an earlier post, UF is the best in Florida. </p>
<p>Better luck on your other admissions decisions.</p>
<p>Thanks guys for everything. To be honest, I’m not dying to go to UF. I’m dying to go to UVA. But the thing is, if I’m denied at UF, honestly, was it even worth the money to apply to UVA? I’m not saying UF is a bad school, but it is not UVA. If I can’t even get accepted to UF, my RD schools are mere pipe-dreams.</p>
<p>UVA admission rate: 37%
UF admission rate: 40%</p>
<p>you still have a good shot for uva.</p>
<p>^ Yes, I think it’s worth the money, because you never know what will happen. BC and UMich are certainly higher ranked schools than UF, and if you got into BC early, that’s particularly impressive. I feel the same way, after being rejected by UF, about my reach schools, but I know that their review process is probably a lot more logical than what we can see about that of UF.</p>
<p>Honestly, if UF would rather admit those with crappy test scores than those of us, like you and I, with scores in or near the 99th percentile, then it’s not a school I would want to be at – and I get the vibe that you’re the same kind of person as me.</p>
<p>Also UVAorBust take this into consideration</p>
<p>i live in virginia and know that UVA is about 33% out of state students so that is a whole lot better chance then the 10% out of state students system wide at Florida colleges</p>
<p>this whole thread is quite interesting to an outsider…and a parent…</p>
<p>UVAorBUST: I still think that you should confirm this with UF admissions; that email was ridiculously verbose and convoluted and while after re-reading it a couple of times, I agree with the other posters, the email could have been clearer…and you could have called them to clarify prior to admissions decisions being sent out…so you wouldn’t have been so blindsided…</p>
<p>That being said, your stats are sickingly excellent…and with all the OOS BS at UF, I am still surprised you were not accepted, but I don’t know that much about whether UF uses a yield management program or whether their process is somewhat holistic…</p>
<p>that being said, I think you have as good a chance at UVA as anybody else OOS…</p>
<p>Good luck with the rest of the process…</p>
<p>Interesting thing is, I’ve heard of public institutions (even private ones) rejecting applicants because they were “too good” for the school; they thought that the only reason such kids were applying is because they wanted to use the school as a safety/backup.</p>
<p>But what the hell do I know . . .</p>
<p>shnead: that’s what I meant by “yield management” in my post…</p>
<p>Uf does not do that. I was accepted and my stats are very high. For years I have watched top-tier caliber students accepted at UF. They were also accepted at one or more of the following Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, MIT,duke, etc. UF does not exhibit tufts syndrome .</p>
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Ditto: In 2009 D got in w/ a 35 ACT (4.0 uw/4.6 w), 1/600 students. If they were going to “tufts” someone, I’d figure it might be her.</p>
<p>I haven’t heard anything like that for UF, so I’d give them the benefit of the doubt. Many top students go there for financial reasons (I know national merit scholars, people who got into top 10 schools, and all around great students who went there for financial reasons), so they wouldn’t have a reason to deny a qualified in-state student (I was accepted with a 2280, my girlfriend was with the same ACT as the OP and better grades/val). Which brings me to the conclusion that one (or both) of two things happened:</p>
<p>1.) Most likely, the OP was treated as out of state for admissions purposes. He was told he wouldn’t be for tuition purposes, but the dean felt the need to clarify that it was for tuition purposes.</p>
<p>2.) Also possible, something we don’t know about was wrong or lacking in the OP’s application. Many students convey bad impressions in essays to their “safety” schools (a reason I don’t think of schools in that way). Maybe they wanted someone with more/better activities or community service, or there was something that turned them off about the OP.</p>
<p>My bet is that 1 is true and some part of 2 is, too, since out-of-state students with lower stats have been accepted. Remember, GPA and SAT/ACT aren’t everything. If a college asks for something on its application, you have to realize they want it to help them make a decision (with the exception of demographics and personal information). That means grades, scores, classes, activities, essays, everything. And not necessarily in that order.</p>
<p>Thank you kapman…</p>
<p>Also, congratz to all! Enjoy soaking up the sun!</p>
<p>Just want to add aswell that I applied for the Summer…</p>
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Is that easier to get in, or are there fewer spots?</p>