<p>I have always had issues with the security of AP exams.</p>
<p>Maybe I'm missing something....Some of these students were caught cheating for the second year in a row and the only punishment might be that they won't be in NHS?!</p>
<p>If I'm reading the rather sketchy news reports correctly, this is cheating on an in-class quiz, NOT cheating on the actual AP exam, right?</p>
<p>Yes, it is a quiz. They are looking into the exam itself. I couldn't believe that some of these kids were caught twice and nothing deterred them from cheating again. Withholding their NHS t-shirts today should really teach them a lesson!</p>
<p>prefect: oh, no, they still get to be in NHS but aren't "visible." How lame!</p>
<p>That was the punishment our public highschool meted out to cheaters too. I do not think College Board should permit the use of the AP exam for in class finals. That is a security breach.</p>
<p>I guess I don't get how copying a powerpoint presentation actually used to present information in class is "cheating." Maybe I'm not understanding the mechanics of it, but would it have been cheating if the kids just took accurate notes in class? The fact that it was "stolen" is another matter, and a clear honor code offense.</p>
<p>I don't understand why they don't kick these kids out of the NHS. On the other hand, a girl in my HS class remained in the NHS after having been fired from a supermarket for embezzling.</p>
<p>I also don't understand how the quiz cheating ties in to the AP exam. Can anyone explain?</p>
<p>If I'm reading the news reports correctly, there isn't really a story here.</p>
<p>I just reread the article, and it seems that in this particular incident these kids electronically distributed materials to all kids in the class that were actually made available to all kids during class anyway, and that they were actually allowed to use notes taken when viewing said materials during quizzes anyway. I don't get the big reason that kids couldn't physically make a copy of the presentation for studying. Why not? Was the school breaking some kind of AP rule by displaying this material in the first place?</p>
<p>I don't get this as a "cheating scandal" that would "rock" a school. Yes, someone "stole" the presentation by copying it off the classroom computer without permission. That was wrong. </p>
<p>The earlier incident, where kids collaborated on a take home exam on which collaboration was not allowed, is perhaps more obviously a case of cheating.</p>
<p>It certainly doesn't seem to have anything to do with the AP exam, except that the kids happened to be in an AP class.</p>
<p>At D's school all Powerpoint presentations, whether prepared by the teacher or student, are accessible on the school website. Like Consolation, I don't see how this is cheating. It's no different than the low tech method of xeroxing a classmates notes. There must be something we're missing here.</p>
<p>Forbidden collaboration on the take-home is quite another matter.</p>
<p>Students in a number of foreign countries would laugh their head off at this "story" since the cheating is not organized by the school and the teachers.</p>
<p>Gimpo</a> Language High School In Trouble : Korea Beat</p>
<p>A foreign language high school in Gimpo has landed itself in some hot water after a teacher there colluded with a hagwon to supply its students with test questions ahead of the university entrance exams. This article sums up the situation, which is one of the top stories on Naver right now, and provides what some netizens have written.</p>
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On the 31st of October one netizen, claiming to be “an applicant to Gimpo Foreign Language High School” left a comment at the school’s homepage: “Today I heard a completely unexpected story. The preparation papers given to students on four [actually three] buses bound for the exam at GFLHS from hagwon J in Mokdong had test questions almost the same as the real test. 8 of the 15 math questions and 40% of the language questions were the same…”</p>
<p>The student who wrote that is 15-year old Lee (3rd year of middle school) who sat for the examination this year at Gimpo Foreign Language High School. She had a friend who went to the hagwon J. Lee said, “my friend goes to that hagwon but told me that on the day before the test she was terrified because she overslept and missed the bus. She was overwhelmed that all her hard work to attend that high school was lost and fainted and while going for an IV at two in the morning she confessed to her sleepless, true-hearted applicant friends the truth of what had happened.”
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<p>Korean</a> Prep School Students in L.A. Caught Cheating - NAM</p>
<p>Korean Prep School Students in L.A. Caught Cheating</p>
<p>Korea Daily, Posted: Mar 02, 2008</p>
<p>LOS ANGELES Six sophomores, including two Korean American students, were expelled and more than twenty students suspended in a cheating scandal at Harvard-Westlake in Los Angeles, a top-tier private school that most Korean parents consider a gateway to Ivy League universities, reports Korea Daily. School officials told the newspaper that students conspired to steal Spanish and history tests by distracting teachers in their classrooms. The stolen tests were then shown or sold to several other students before midterm exams last month, reports Korea Daily. Based on an anonymous tip the school received, several students were accused of being involved, while others came forward to confess, reports Korea Daily. Harvard-Westlake is one of the areas premiere private schools and charges $25,000 a year for tuition. Every year, its students set records for their high SAT and Advanced Placement scores. Among the 870 students enrolled in the school, about 100 are Korean American.</p>
<p>SAT Takers Use Time Zone Differences to Cheat</p>
<p>Koreans studying in America are proving their scholastic aptitude by taking advantage of the time difference between Korea and the U.S. to cheat on their scholastic aptitude test or SAT. The SAT can be taken in eight places in Korea, with the rising number of candidates reaching 1,853 last year.</p>
<p>An 18-year-old student who gave his name as Park and studies at a high school in Connecticut said, "During the SAT in May, a friend of mine at Korea International School fed me some of the math and language questions, so I had an easy time with it." This is possible because, although test papers are only opened on the day, Korea is 14-17 hours ahead of the U.S. If student A, who finishes the SAT in Korea on the morning of May 7, at noon calls student B in Washington, where it is 10:00 p.m. on May 6, and gives him the questions on the test, student B can prepare for the test and get a good nights sleep before the morning of May 7 arrives there. Bae, attending a school in Massachusetts, said, "On the May SAT, a friend of mine who took the test in Korea told me some of the questions, and they were exactly the same as the ones on the test I took."
Lee, 24, studies at a top university in the U.S. and tutors the SAT when he returns to Korea each vacation. He admits he too once fed the questions to a friend in the U.S. "Some of the students I tutor ask me to take the test here in Korea and call them in the States with the questions. I was really perplexed when even parents asked me to do that."</p>
<p>Song, 24, who also tutors the SAT in Seoul, said, "I can't guarantee that the SAT questions are exactly the same in Korea and the U.S., but perhaps like the Korean university entrance exam, there are only two or three test papers... There are 10 sections, and it seems they send the test papers after they mix up the order of the questions in each section or mix up the sections at random."</p>
<p>My kid's school, my kid's class. (Texas, not Korea.) I don't quite know where they are getting the tag line about cheating on the AP exam. It was APUSH class, but there are no allegations that anyone cheated on the AP exam.</p>
<p>From the local press, I think that the kid who actually downloaded the exam on his/her flashdrive has been suspended-don't know for how long. The other 24 kids were given a copy of the teacher's power point...I don't know if the downloader gave out all the copies, or if they were passed from kid to kid. I don't yet know how much it was stressed in class that having the power point on a kid's home computer was a sin. Lots of teachers have their notes on their web page. Lot of teachers pass out copies of their power points. I don't know why this particular power point was only available on the school computer.</p>
<p>I well remember the take home test collaboration issue last year. The teacher-one of the best in the school IMO-chose to deal with each student individually and not subject them to school sanctions. I guess that bit of grace they were given didn't sink in. No one wants to bring the hammer down on the kids at the top of the class.</p>
<p>My son was out of school on a field trip yesterday; as clueless as he normally is (he has Asperger's), this may all be news to him.</p>
<p>The "quiz" at issue was an open notes test. I think it was intended to be a "gift" from the teacher so they could all get 100s and thus, high grades for the 6 week period during which they took the AP exam. SO....there are 25 kids bringing in the teacher's power point as part of their notes for the quiz, so they are sure to get 100s. And MY son forgets to bring in any notes at all and gets a 45 on the open notes test! If all of those grades are allowed to stand, I won't know whether to laugh or cry.</p>
<p>Power point presentations over the U.S. history book chapters were stolen from the teacher of one of the AP U.S. history classes. The power points are available to all AP U.S. history students once they meet the requirement of a completed (lengthy) handwritten chapter outline. Then, prior (before or after school) to the quiz or chapter test you could review the teacher power point. Many of the accused students did not want to complete the chapter outlines or come before or after school to view the material. The power point information is very useful because it contains answers found on the teacher's quizzes/ tests. They have to sign an Honor code for the class and this violated it.</p>
<p>Katifromkaty, I would bet that all of the students who were using the power point to actually gain an advantage on the test DID complete the handwritten outline because a grade was taken on that as well. If you're trying to gain points on an open notes test, you don't lose points by not doing the outline.</p>
<p>I read a post on a local board from a mom who kid was handed a copy of the power point (and is suffering the consequences). I really bet that some of the kids didn't think a thing of it and perhaps didn't even use it. In law school there were always all kinds of outlines floating around. I never used them because I had enough of an academic ego to think that my outline was just as good as theirs-but I have know idea whether any of those outlines violated the school honor code.</p>
<p>I've also just heard that the kid who did the downloading was NOT the one given in school suspension; the one who posted it (on a personal web site?) was the one given ISS. Doesn't sound fair.</p>
<p>I'd just like the test grade thrown out, I guess.</p>
<p>Actually, missy, it sounds like your son should be given a 100 for not using stolen notes!</p>
<p>Must have been a slow news night in Colleyville.<br>
As far as using the exam as a final grade, the way it's done at some schools is that merely taking the exam will exempt the kid from the later final. The school wants all the kids to take the exams so use that as a perk. (So what ends up happening is that Mom and Dad get pressured by kid and school to pay $80 for the AP exam so he doesn't habe to take the Calculus final even if they know there's no way he's going to get the 4 that his college requires to grant credit...)</p>