<p>I know that. (I"m involved in UC admissions and an alum myself. ;))</p>
<p>The question was not, what will happen to her because she got a 1.88 this year; the (implied) question was, with such a poor start, how would she fare later, since realistically she is not going to move from a 1.88 to a 3.7+ in sophomore year. Ain’t going to happen, since I am extremely familiar with her program and her currrent readiness (& lack thereof) for high school. There are female (and male) athletes who compete for reach schools as athletes with considerably better grades than the minimum 2.0 required by NCAA, so I was trying to get a more realistic picture of her options.</p>
<p>Why were her grades so bad? It’s possible she has a learning disability. The NCAA has its minimum GPA requirements for a reason, a student whose grade point falls below that isn’t ready for college. Unless this girl can turn things around academically it is a good thing she won’t be eligible to play at a Division 1 school because she won’t be ready for the academics of college.</p>
<p>Not apparent yet that this is LD. More likely accumulated bad study habits, especially during important bridge years leading to high school. This public high school has recently over-enrolled (40-50 kids in classrooms), due to the deterioration of surrounding schools & districts. Student often comes late to class (or leaves early), given her practices & travel (which hardly helps!)</p>
<p>probably a great d1 school would love to give her a full ride for a 3.0, so tell her to shoot for that, that is a b average, and if she begins to take APs it will boost her gpa even more, sounds like she needs to take academics seriously, 1.88 is pretty horrible for freshman year[maybe you can kindly suggest her parents get her a tutor or require to stay afterschool for help]. she may get some offers at a 2.0 but if she wants a more stellar school she should shoot for at least a 3.0</p>
<p>what is her sport?? My daughter was recruited by a big 10 school and we were told that as soon as an athlete’s application form is complete, they automatically admit as long as you meet the minimum ncaa guidelines. this was for a non-revenue sport…and it is a good school, so for schools with money to whom athletics are high priority, you can get in with a 2.0. Not saying it’s a great idea…but it is done.</p>
<p>What??? A post from a “friend” who doesn’t even know that women play SOFTBALL!
It’s not that complicated and as a “friend” you should know that— How many softball players get invited to play D1 with much higher stats? She needs to substantially raise her GPA ( but with a 1.8 how will she be able to do well with APs?) and perhaps stop listening to unrealistic advisors. How important is the softball part? She would be better off looking at D2-3 schools.</p>
<p>Yes, I know that women play softball not baseball. :rolleyes: It was the FAMILY that informed me wrongly, not myself. They used the term ‘baseball’ casually, when they really meant softball. Since I knew the difference from about age 7 (having been taught by my father), I don’t think I need a lecture from a rude smart-mouth.</p>
<p>Yes, I’m a friend. Not one in quotes. You, however, are not courteous even in quotes.</p>
<p>The ‘unrealistic advisors’ would not include myself but (initially) the family, who has indeed sought tutoring. In fact my posts on the preceding page stressed the very importance of realism, but you clearly didn’t bother to read that page.</p>
<p>Thank you for the other contrastingly courteous & informative replies, in contrast to post #26.</p>
<p>I’ve had Alot of experience with children and sports and colleges and D1 and D2 and D3. Realistically, it is extremely difficult, for any student, no matter what their GPA is, to get recruited for a college sport. You may not agree with my statement, but it’s true, and I’m sure you’ll find a lot of disenchanted parents and students who feel the same way.
If you’ve known since age 7 that women/girls play softball, why would you say this student plays baseball? You come across as not knowing this young woman very well.
Sorry if you don’t like my response, but nothing I said was rude, just truthful. You need to hear both sides of the story.</p>
<p>No, Again, you do not read well. I know the family and the student well. Your response was indeed rude, and more importantly, not based on careful reading. (Sorry, but you come across as judgmental and not well read.) Regarding the differences between softball and baseball I am well versed. Regarding the mechanics and standards of athletic recruiting I am not. That’s why I came to this forum. Fortunately everyone but you who has responded here does read well and does not come to extreme and unfounded conclusions. </p>
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<p>That’s the kind of perspective I had been looking for, without the gratuitous snotty remarks accompanying it. I’ll make sure to tell the family not to come to CC for answers, because they would not appreciate encountering someone with your tone.</p>
<p>I’m signing off now because I really find this poster distasteful. Thanks to the many extremely helpful replies of the other posters. If you have more info for me, please feel free to PM me, folks. I will pass along your info to the family.</p>
<p>None of us has any way of knowing whether the girl will be a good enough player to be offered a partial scholarship at DI or DII or to be put on some coach’s list of preferred admits at DIII. We do know is that she is good enough to be receiving considerable interest early in her high school career, so one can at least say that receiving an actual offer is a plausible goal.</p>
<p>In any event, the academic issue remains the same.</p>
<p>One other thing that might be helpful to know (if the original poster is still reading) is that some colleges will rely on the non-revenue athletes to bring up the average of the overall population of athletes as far as grades and graduation rate. Honestly, I don’t know exactly how this works, but I know that many of the coaches we spoke to asked about grades before anything else and that if you look at the gpas, you will see that most of the female athletes are pretty close to the general student population. </p>
<p>On the other hand, my daughter has ended up admitted to a UC for soccer. I do not believe she would have been admitted were she not a recruited athlete, but would have been close. The other thing to look at which you will not know for a couple of years is the SAT scores. High SAT scores will help a lot at some schools. In our case, my kid had good grades but VERY low SATs, and I think the UCs, unlike many colleges, put more emphasis on grades than test scores.</p>
<p>This is not based on any real data, but I have the impression, based on where my daughter’s friends, classmates, teammates, etc got admitted or didn’t get admitted, that UCLA will bend its admission requirements for an athlete they want more than Cal will.</p>
<p>I am sorry that you felt that posters here were not entirely respectful or helpful. I always try to be.</p>
<p>Thank you for reminding me of that, strykermom. That is one of the few areas in athletic recruiting I do know something about – having a very different friend whose D was recruited by UCLA, even after being initially rejected there. However, I will say also that I know what that D’s GPA was: not spectacular, but certainly no bare 2.0 to meet technical rules.</p>
<p>Again, no one but the aforementioned poster has been rude to me here. I just would never subject the family in question to the intolerance or judgmental attitude of even one person (in the hope of getting a little info). I’ll pass on all the very good data, which was respectfully and dispassionately offered, to the contrastingly helpful posters here – all of you.:)</p>
<p>She was recieving letters as a freshman? Is that even allowed? I know for swimming their is a certain date which coaches can start recruiting during their senior year. I know for guys and baseball its during junior year, but I’m shocked anyone takes interest in a freshman. As far as GPA goes unless she is and absolutely outstanding athlete she will need over a 2.0</p>
<p>Anways, my friend, whos a swimmer and has several national championships (shot at the olympics as well) was told by a coach that he was so gifted the school would accept a 0.0 GPA to have him. Which I thought was kind of funny.</p>