Huge predicament

<p>Greetings CC members,
I am in need of desperate advise. During the UC application process I didn't include classes I got grades D's in because I either retook those classes or took a replacement class in order to satisfy the college requirements. I did this with the mindset of providing the most up to date info with no malicious intentions whatsoever. I did this after meeting with my counselor at High School. During one of our meetings I discussed with her what I should do about my natural science requirement since I had gotten a D in Chemistry. She told me to input my AP environmental science class in it's place because that class met the requirement and I had gotten a more acceptable grade. I did this with some other classes as well. Now UCR sent me an email asking me why I had excluded certain classes and I sent an email back explaining them the above reasoning. Now they want proof of the counselors advisement but my high school has been over a month and all of the counselors are on vacation. They gave me 5 days to gain proof. Now I in a state of shock because if I can't obtain proof my admission will be revoked and my future goes down the drain. PLEASE ADVISE ME ON WHAT I SHOULD DO BECAUSE I AM AT A LOSS RIGHT NOW. I ASSURE YOU I HAD NO BAD INTENTIONS WHEN I EXCLUDED THOSE CLASSES. I ONLY HAD THE INTENTIONS OF PROVIDING THE MOST UP TO DATE ACADEMIC RECORD. PLEASE HELP ME BECAUSE MY FUTURE IS IN LIMBO. WHAT SHOULD I DO??? I EMAILED THE APPEALS COMMITTEE BUT I HAVE HAD NO ANSWER BACK. SO PLEASE SOME ADVISE???</p>

<p>It has been awhile since I have went through the process but I am pretty sure that the application asks you for accurate information in regards to your transcript, and when you initial, you are thereby acknowledging that you have provided accurate information. On the application it specifically states that you have to report all the courses and grades from all schools you have attended, and that misreporting your academic record can jeopardize your admission. </p>

<p>What you did was not an attempt to provide “the most up to date” information, it was intentional misreporting of your grades and fudging your academic record to make yourself appear more competitive. Do not be foolish and try to spin it as such.</p>

<p>It seems to me that your counselor misguided you for that one course and she should take responsibility for you not reporting your chemistry grade. But you have to responsibility for excluding the grades of the other courses that you did not fare so well in, since you took the initiative to exclude those grades, even though your counselor did not advise you to do so. </p>

<p>In sum, YOU ARE SCREWED, unless you can reach your counselor before the deadline and she is willing to take the blame for you excluding a bunch of grades on your application, which she did not advise you to do.</p>

<p>If i intended to provide false info I would have changed my gpa or my sat scores. If you remove those grades from the excluded classes my gpa would go up way above 4.0. But I reported my accurate g.p.a which was 3.7. Besides i would still be admitted even if i provided tht info. I AM BEING TRUTHFUL. I HAD NO INTENTIONS TO PROVIDE FALSE INFO. PLEASE BELIEVE ME.</p>

<p>begin the mass emaling to your counselor or try to even to get a hold of their phone number. Your school’s office should be open and if u cant get a hold of ur counselor seek a higher up person, like say ur principle to write an email or letter. Be contrite, call the ucr admission office and explain ur situation, ask for an extension. </p>

<p>Kinda sucks that u got in this situation, did u end up getting a D in ur chem class? </p>

<p>I have a similar experience to you but i took care of it. I was taking ap physics and it was brutal. I talked to my counselor and i was going through some home problems too so i asked if could drop it. He agreed, and i called the ucr office as well. They said its fine, i didnt even have to write or send anything to them. I explained i was a chass major and i didnt need physics for a-g. i took ap bio last year as a jr too and i was taking ap chem at the time, they understood. Just explain thoroughly.</p>

<p>Thank you for the supportive email. Unlike the first guy you are very encouraging. It is very sad that I am in this situation when I had no ill intentions. I have sent out numerous emails some to my counselor as well as the appeals committee so that I may get some sort of meeting so that I could explain my reasoning. Please pray everything goes fine.</p>

<p>Rickster, you did not go through the same situation as mwari94. You dropped the class and informed the university of the situation, you did not intentionally exclude it from your application. There is a difference. mwari94 excluded the grades for several classes on his application and you did not.</p>

<p>mwari94, I am sorry if I was trying to keep it real. You cannot argue that it was not intentional because you were aware of what you were doing and deliberately excluded those grades. If you try that defense with the university it will utterly fail. </p>

<p>It may not have been apparent in my previous, but I am advising you to not use that defense of unintentional misreporting of your grades when you defend your case to the committee. Instead, get a hold of your counselor and have her either take responsibility for the mal-advise for that one course and then take responsibility for your initiative to exclude the other courses–stating that you were under the assumption that you could exclude other grades because your counselor told you that you could not report your chem grade–or take the blame for all the exclusions. </p>

<p>Your whole defense hinges on your counselor’s statement, and whether or not she will be willing to put her neck and reputation out there for you is hard to determine.</p>

<p>I know it’s a bit late and wonder how it went… hope well! I agree with Dark, though. I attended several different colleges of which one of them I had nothing but W’s (withdrawals). I could have excluded that college since the W doesn’t help or do anything but since I had to report EVERY college and course, I still did. It is true that it’s better to be honest and report than be found out later. But you do need to proactively bug EVERY person you can get ahold of at school, and blame it on the COUNSELOR. LMK how it went!</p>

<p>I’m going to agree with Darkprince . mwari94, lets be honest, you intentionally left classes that you did poorly in out of your application . Your strange " well its only because i totally retook the classes so it doesn’t matter " defense is horrible . Your best bet is to accept your admission being revoked, furthermore you’ll need to beg the UC system to not outright ban you for fraud ( from EVERY UC) . </p>

<p>I had a D on my CC transcript, did I just not report it since it wasn’t UC transferable anyway . NO, EVERY GRADE HAS TO BE REPORTED . If you were honest you would be fine now.</p>

<p>Like the majority of the other posters here, you are in the wrong here OP. When entering the grades it asks for all grades for all classes you took in high school or at a community college. You can’t just leave out grades that would have made you look extremely bad. I had several D’s myself but I listed them anyways and still was admitted.</p>

<p>Dear CC members,
I am happy to announce that my situation at UCR has been rectified. My admission to UCR has been retained. My appeal was heard well and the committee and my admissions councelor had my back the whole step of the way. So Mr. DarkPrince I recall you saying that I WAS SCREWED. Well how about them apples. Your first post has led to many sleepless nights and many sad moments on my part.</p>

<p>mwari94, congratulations on retaining your admission. I hope you learned a lesson (but I doubt you did based on the vibe of your post). Just because you were lucky this time for being dishonest, it does not mean that you will be lucky next time. It WILL catch up to you eventually.</p>

<p>I do recall that I said “you are SCREWED, unless…” and not “you are screwed.” Do you need me to explain the difference between the two utterances? </p>

<p>Resorting to personal attacks? LOL! You obviously are the immature one here. I am not even going to bother to explain the origins of my name, for you are probably not well read to even get the reference. You have a lot of growing up to do. “How about them apples”? How old are you? 10? I think you need to heed your own advise, grow up and learn some integrity.</p>

<p>In defense of ThisIsLife, your argument was faulty. “You cannot argue that it was not intentional because you were aware of what you were doing and deliberately excluded those grades.” I think my objection fully demonstrates the flaw in your defense. Although the appeals board accepted that explanation, it does not mean it was not faulty. Also, no one told you not to go through with the appeals process. </p>

<p>No one here intended to bring you down, we were keeping it real. Do you honestly think that people who are more accomplished need to bring an immature high school student down to make themselves feel better? LOL! Please do not attempt to address that rhetorical question, mwari94. It is fine if you do not want us demonstrating the faultiness of your argument and breaking the situation down for you, there is no need for you to react in the manner that you did.</p>

<p>@mwari94 </p>

<p>im happy it went well for you. Your situation was very sticky so anything could of happened. With complex problems like these, you should call ucr themselves about it next time rather than seek answers here on cc. With those types of questions, no one can give you better answers and steps to take other than the school. Also, darkprince said that you were screwed if you couldnt get a hold of your hs counselor. If or if not you were even able to get a hold of him/her, i’d say you were extremely lucky that your admissions counselor “had your back.” Who knows what horrible things could of happened if that person didnt ;x</p>

<p>Anyways, enjoy that it finally resolved in your favor and enjoy the rest of your summer.</p>

<p>Good for you, OP, I hope you learned your lesson for grad school, if you decide to pursue it. It reminds me, I was horrible at attendance and despite of my A’s on every assignment/test, my professor almost failed me but he didn’t. Therefore, I learned my lesson on that :wink: So there it is! Good luck!
Dark, I think you’re taking what he said too personal cuz to me, he didn’t sound too offensive… lol it’s not a biggie, really.</p>

<p>kalon12, his post was so offensive that the administrators on CC edited his post. Read the edit note. “Last edited by MaineLonghorn; Today at 11:14 AM. Reason: Insulting; inappropriate language.” ;)</p>

<p>Furthermore, I did not take offense to his post. I found it amusing because it demonstrated how mature and intelligent he is. LOL! If you read his original post you would understand the irony… Oh… The irony…</p>

<p>I am sorry Mr. Dark Prince. I was mostly venting away on that last post and let my emotions get the best of me. I knew what you guys were saying was correct but I couldn’t accept that fact. Now that this whole dilemma is over I am much happier now and I would like to apologize to you and Mr. ThisIsLife. I have read some of your posts on other threads and you are very helpful. That last post doesn’t represent me I just got a little carried away. Once again I am sorry for my rudeness and immaturity.</p>

<p>you mind PMing the original post lol.</p>

<p>oh i didn’t know there was a such thing lol…</p>