<p>I'm thinking of transferring, but I'm not sure what college. I thought of Govt/Econ at CAS, PAM at HumEc, or ILR. </p>
<p>I really like PAM because it prepares students for a career in public policy and the curriculum is based around government policies and how they impact social issues, which is pretty much what I want to study. I plan to get my masters in public policy/public policy administration, so PAM would obviously be perfect for that. But I'm also curious about ILR because I've been reading a lot about it. I was talking to my friend from HS who attends ILR and she telling me all about the curriculum and it really interests me too. I'm planning on reading some of the ILR lit posted on the site to find out more. </p>
<p>Maybe someone who's currently in PAM or knows a lot about it can give me more info about it, and how it differs from the ILR program? I can study public policy/govt/econ at both and they would be helpful in getting my MPPA.</p>
<p>Also, both HumEc and ILR require a math SAT II - but I didn't take one in HS! I only took English Lit and World Hist! Should take a math SAT II now? My math SAT I grade was very low - only 640 - will that hinder my chances?</p>
<p>Also, I noticed that 1/4 of ILR grads were transfers - why is the percentage so high? As a transfer, will it be easier for me to get into ILR?</p>
<p>Also, does being from NY help at all? I understand that there's no quota of in state residents needed, but I've heard it helps - is that true?</p>
<p>ok, this is the part where you proud ILRers and HumEcers trot out and start defending your school and bashing the other. </p>
<p>See, if I created a thread titled "Cornell has highest suicide rate in universe!" or "Ithaca is the Suckiest place on Earth" this thread would be 7 pages long by now...</p>
<p>You could be a bit more polite and patient with this question as its a bit more hard to answer...</p>
<p>You could do an alternative/primary choice for ILR/Human Ec. Yes, the SAT Math I will hurt you although I hear Human Ec/ILR aren't that focused on SAT based on what current students say/the info session I attended. ILR is easier to transfer to, but you really shouldn't do UNLESS you want to go into human resources which to be honest with you doesn't have that much career diversity. NY Residents get discounted tuition, but I don't think they get preference with admissions. And you shouldn't apply to either of these schools with the intention of just going to Cornell or transfering adcoms aren't stupid. Most of these questions could be found on ILR/Human Ec. website or you could e-mail admissions for information.</p>
<p>I think PAM is a great program, and I'm sure I'd be there if my heart didn't belong in Ives Hall. I would say that the principal difference is that ILR is more multidisciplinary and will require classes from many different fields instead of just government, sociology, econ, and statistics. ILR will require more history, law, and reading. PAM is clearly a better option for strictly policy studies, but ILR is worth serious consideration if you have serious interests outside of policy.</p>
<p>thank you both! sorry I am being impatient. I did email admissions to ask them about the SAT. I have also perused both the ILR and HumEc websites and it didn't answer all my questions, so I asked admissions. </p>
<p>Anyway - from what I hear (keep in mind I'm not an ILR student) many ILR students seem to be pre-law, and most go into business, and the careers aren't just limited to Human Resources, although that is one of the 6 departments. </p>
<p>I am interested in studying public policy, plan to get my masters in it. I've been doing more research on both programs and I think PAM is a better fit for me. </p>
<p>Also, it's not that it's all about the money, but NYU is a huge financial strain on my family, and my dad just left his job so my family income is not the same as a yr ago when I applied. NYU is terrible with financial aid. Right now I'm paying like $36,000 just for tuition and commuting 2 hrs a day, whereas Cornell is much cheaper with tuition and room/board. </p>
<p>simple person, I'm not sure what you meant when you said I shouldn't apply for the sake of just transferring; after all, transferring is what I'm trying to do. NYU doesn't have a program like PAM or anything in public policy. There is a program kind of like it in the School of Continuing and Profressional Studies, but that would also require transferring, and that program is different from what I want, plus SCPS is not that great of a school. If I stayed at NYU, I would probably just end up majoring in Politics/Econ, which is not what I want...the curriculum is very liberal artsy and heavy on reading, but not much real world application. We don't learn about public policy and its applications in the public/private sector or what affect it has on social issues...people majoring in Politics do a lot of reading of classics and talk about them. This liberal arts intense curriculum is not what I want.</p>
<p>i think simpleperson meant "transferring" as transferring between cornell's colleges. for example, applying to ILR/ HumEc because of their higher acceptance rate and then transferring to CAS.</p>
<p>Oh ok. No, that's definitely not what I want, believe me! Transferring once is more than enough for me! The more I read and find out about PAM, the more I love it. I thought about doing Govt/Econ at CAS, am still considering, but leaning towards HumEc. The CAS curriculum is definitely more liberal arts based and broad and I would rather study public policy, since that's my ultimate interest, and what I'll get my masters in. Between ILR and HumEc, I think HumEc suits me more. So I've made up my mind between the two. Thanks everyone :)</p>