The info I seem to have is that I was deferred by Huntsman ED and that because of that, my app was never reviewed separately by Wharton. And yes, I took Huntsman as my primary and Wharton as my secondary on the app, all ED filled out correctly. The Huntsman website says:
“The Huntsman Program decisions are rendered before single degree. Those applicants who are not offered admission to the Huntsman Program will receive full consideration by the single-degree school of their choice. Applying to the Huntsman Program does not hurt a student’s chances of being accepted to either Wharton or the School of Arts & Sciences.”
I applied to Huntsman because my reading of this was that if I was not admitted to Huntsman, my app would be given "full consideration"during the ED round by Wharton. But this does not seem to be what actually happens.
Any comments? If a Huntsman deferral means that you lose Wharton ED consideration, I think this is at least a serious oversight in how the process is described. Given historic acceptance rates, would also seem like my Wharton ED chances of acceptance would be better than RD…
That seems to make sense, except admissions office seems clear that Huntsman deferral somehow affects the full Wharton review. Was told this multiple times. Told that a Wharton admissions rep sits in on the Huntsman meetings and is part of any Huntsman deferral decision, but if that group decides on Huntsman deferral, there is no separate Wharton application review. I don’t think I misunderstood this - only posted here because it is so different from the process the website describes.
Congrats!! Incredible school!! Hypothesis is that the process actually does not allow for a Huntsman or M&T deferral, and secondary choice acceptance, at odds with website info. Think about it - if the programs are separately “funded” with applicants, how do you hold a place open at one pending a future decision if you simultaneously force an ED acceptance in the other? Do I get game theory credit for this? Still looking for anyone who got deferred in one program today but accepted in the secondary ED choice…
yeah that isn’t possible. They only look at single choice if they reject you from the program. Which is why I think they will reconsider the dual degree during RD and if then you are also rejected there you get considered single degree.
I just haven’t heard of anyone who got deferred from a dual degree program and then got in so my hopes aren’t too high but I am fairly confident about my single choice given my stats and all.
“The Huntsman Program decisions are rendered before single degree. Those applicants who are not offered admission to the Huntsman Program will receive full consideration by the single-degree school of their choice. Applying to the Huntsman Program does not hurt a student’s chances of being accepted to either Wharton or the School of Arts & Sciences.”
But seems that if you are not admitted, but deferred, no decision is ever made by the secondary single-degree school because they never have the opportunity to give “full consideration” to the app. Hope I’m wrong. If there is someone who was deferred in Huntsman or M&T but accepted to their secondary ED choice, it would be great to know.
you have to be rejected by the dual degree before you can be accepted single degree. Deferral obviously means they did not consider your single degree as they will still look at the dual degree.
I think most applicants, reading the website, and filling out two ED selections on their app, would have trouble with your use of the word “obviously.” The last time I checked, “deferral” meant that you were not “offered admission.” If the conclusion that you and I have reached is true, future applicants need to know that applying to one of these dual degree programs holds with it the possibility of deferral, and that a very non-obvious consequence of this is that your second-choice single degree school will never fully review your app in the ED round, thereby “reducing your chances of being accepted” to that school.
@RH2016 you were deferred by Huntsman, not Wharton. during RD you will still be considered for huntsman admission and if you do not get in you will automactically be considered by wharton for admission.
@RH2016 also, i don’t think being deferred during ED from a dual degree really lowers your chances of admission to your second choice school. If you are an applicant deferred from one of the dual degree programs at Penn (LSM, M&T,Huntsman, HCHN, VIPER) then you are most probably quite more competitive than most of the single degree applicants so your chances are not really affected even if RD is harder than ED ( applicants who are less competitive than you would be affected from such a differential, but you are most prob well above the cutoff). also you seem to assume that RD is harder than ED which is not necessarily true. While the RD acceptance rate is much lower, the RD group is a much more self-selected pool of very motivated/impressive students who might also have strong ties to Penn (legacy, development cases). So for the non legacy, non-athlete student, the difference is not really big at all, if any.