<p>Hey all,</p>
<p>First off, huge congratulations to all accepted! UPenn 2016!</p>
<p>On Huntsman, I saw that couple of CCers was either deferred or rejected from this program. I am wondering if any got into Huntsman ED for 2016 from this CC forum.</p>
<p>I asked my counsellor possible reasons for deferral from Huntsman, and his answer was demograpics. Since it accepts 'preconditioned' number of different nationalities (and different second language options), does this mean "although your application was competent, we need to see how many of your specific second language option apply for RD"?</p>
<p>If there are anybody you know that achieved success in Huntsman ED 2016, we would love to hear about it!</p>
<p>Thanks in advance, and fall forward! :)</p>
<p>did you manage to find out for sure that you were deferred huntsman and not by your second-single choice?</p>
<p>To begin, I would like to congratulate everyone who got in, and give my condolences to those who were rejected/deferred.</p>
<p>What your counselor said is true: the Huntsman program does want a specific number of students in each of the 11 target languages. For example, every year, the admissions officers at Huntsman would attempt to admit 2 students to the Korean program. As a consequence, the admissions officers usually pile applicants by target language, thus making some programs such as French and Spanish very competitive and others such as Arabic less so. The secret to getting into Huntsman is succeeding in your specific applicant pool, an achievement I accomplished only because I know a language other applicants usually don’t-- Arabic.</p>
<p>Koharvard, I think that your deferral doesn’t mean the admissions officers don’t like you, but it means that they believe a better applicant- or what they perceive as a better applicant- than you might appear during RD. If you are able to stand out in your pool till the end, you will-I hope- get accepted. A tactic I and a current Huntsmanite used is focusing the Huntsman essay on our specific target area. For instance, if your target language is Arabic, you could analyze the issue of unequal citizenship with a concentration on countries such as Kuwait. Such a tactic shows not only your interest in your target area, but also the skills the Huntsman Program desires. </p>
<p>If you are interested in seeing an accepted student’s stats, you can find mine in the official ED thread. Good luck with your application, broharvard!</p>
<p>Huntsman students are selected by Inge. She works hard to create a cohesive class and most of the time she nails it. She looks for students who will be successful but also will fit in well with the rest of the class. It is certainly helpful if you are everything she is looking for and also you have an under-represented language, but she will not take you if she doesn’t think you are right for the program.</p>
<p>I also heard that Inge (the Executive Director of the Huntsman Program) really cares about an applicant’s mathematical ability, probably because a few Huntsman students struggled with certain math-based classes. Every applicant should definitely take SAT math 2 and calc bc and do well on them-- this is a very important part of the Huntsman application. I don’t know if this is true for all applicants, but because I targeted a language that doesn’t have a subject test, I didn’t have to take any language exams. I might have to take one when I matriculate, but that has more to do with placement than with admissions. However, that might be a special case, since I’m a native speaker of my target language.</p>
<p>@koharvard- we’re in the same boat, but best of luck! (:
Cardgames, is there any way someone could have been deferred for both Huntsman and their single-choice school and put into the RD pool? </p>
<p>Thanks, guys!</p>
<p>His target language is French too. He has acceped in Wharton instead of Huntsman.</p>
<p>My son is little bit upset that he hasn’t get in Huntsman. His SAT2 is good.( MATH 800 ， Freanch 780). He also take Chinese for more than 4 years. He is an IB diploma student and take IB HL math, IB Economic Hl, IB French SL, IB Chinese HL。 I do not think he is rejected by Huntsman for acdemic reasons.</p>
<p>@ ricexbunnieee
A poster who goes by JHS posted this last year (I don’t know if he is 100% right): (<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-pennsylvania/964673-penn-dual-degree-ed-question.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-pennsylvania/964673-penn-dual-degree-ed-question.html</a>)</p>
<p>"I believe you can choose any of the following (using M&T as an example):</p>
<p>Apply to M&T ED with no backup application to Wharton or SEAS. You can be accepted ED, deferred, or rejected ED. If you are deferred, your application to M&T is alive for the RD round.</p>
<p>Apply to M&T ED with a backup ED application to either school. You can be accepted ED to M&T, deferred, or rejected ED from M&T. If you are deferred, your application to M&T is alive for the RD round. If you are deferred or rejected for M&T, you can be accepted ED, deferred, or rejected ED for your backup school. If you are accepted, you are bound to attend, but if your M&T application gets accepted RD that’s fine. If you are deferred for the backup school, your application is treated as an RD application.</p>
<p>Apply to M&T ED with a backup application to either school, but not an ED backup. Your M&T results will be as above. If you are deferred or rejected for M&T, you have a live RD application to the backup school you chose."</p>
<p>if one is deferred by a dual program, how can they be rejected by their back up choice? like if you choose M&T…the program consists of both wharton and the college…so how can they reject someone from wharton but still consider them from M&T?</p>
<p>@ PeterGriffin</p>
<p>I agree- that’s why I included that short disclaimer. If we can get enough CC users to post screen shots of their decision portals, we can probably deduce all dual ED combinations. </p>
<p>Personally, I think the following are the most logical combinations:</p>
<p>1)
Dual-degree decision: Accepted
Single-degree decision: N/A
What the decision portal looks like: Accepted to Huntsman or whatever.</p>
<p>2)
Dual-degree decision: Rejected
Single-degree decision: Accepted
What the decision portal looks like: Accepted to CAS or whatever (no mention of dual-degree)</p>
<p>3)
Dual-degree decision: Rejected
Single-degree decision: Deferred
What the decision portal looks like: Further evaluation is required for CAS (no mention of dual-degree)</p>
<p>4)
Dual-degree decision: Rejected
Single-degree decision: Rejected
What the decision portal looks like: Do I have to say?</p>
<p>5)
Dual-degree decision: Deferred
Single-degree decision: N/A
What the decision portal looks like: Further evaluation is required for Huntsman or whatever.</p>
<p>Awkward combinations that probably don’t exist:
- Read PeterGriffin’s post.
- What if you were deferred from your dual-degree choice but were accepted to your single degree choice? Would the decision portal tell you that you were accepted to CAS, but your Hunstman’s decision is pending? Did this happen to anyone?</p>
<p>To answer ricexbunnieee’s question, I don’t think that double deferral is possible. I’m sure a lot of people believe this.</p>
<p>If we got CC users to confirm all combinations, we could compile a list.</p>
<p>@Cardgames- thanks a lot for presenting all those options. You know, its just the fact that the decision portal is so damn vague when it comes to getting deferred. There is no mention whatosever of any school, no ‘evaluating for CAS or wharton’ for example- zilch- it just keeps u hanging which i find very strange. i though there is the possibility of getting a non-binding single choice offer whilst getting deferred by the first choice dual.
in any case, im phoning up the admissions office later today regarding my deferral, and im willing to reply to this thread on whatever they tell me. hopefully it should confirm one of the possibilities uve mentioned!</p>
<p>@ PeterGriffin</p>
<p>Do you have a link/tab to your dual-degree choice on your portal? If not, you were probably rejected from the dual-degree program (combination 3). If you do, you are probably combination 5.</p>
<p>i didnt quite understand what you meant by link/tab to my dual degree choice :s</p>
<p>@ PeterGriffin</p>
<p>Never mind then. It just that , on my penn portal, I have 3 links to all (one to CAS, one to Wharton and one to Huntsman) schools related to my application. I know that those who got combination 2 have only one link. I thought the same would apply to deferrals, but I guess I was wrong.</p>
<p>I got into the Huntsman Program as a Spanish speaker. I live in the U.S. but I am a Mexican citizen in addition to being an American citizen. This may have helped my application.</p>
<p>First of all, hearty congratulations to whoever got in. </p>
<p>I’m a potential international student from India who’s applied for the Huntsman Program. Does anyone know if its easier for me to get in if I’ve listed Hindi as my language of study? Because as far as I know, the number of Hindi students is very low.</p>
<p>@rsidd: If you know a language proficiently other than Hindi, I would advise you to choose that instead because it shows your ability to challenge yourself (and there honestly is no point to going into your home language because you know it so well). I telephoned the office and they don’t want kids who are already fluent in the language (you’re required to take classes in that language => what’s the point if you can speak it better than all the other kids?). However, If Hindi is your only language, then you really don’t have any options.</p>
<p>@saut36: Well, the funny thing is that I’m not really that proficient in Hindi, because I’ve only been staying in India for a few years. I’m actually way better at French & Spanish. But I took Hindi because I really don’t see any point in improving my (good) French or Spanish if I’m going to be staying in India for most of my adult life. & my home language is English.</p>