<p>Stanford and MIT are good schools, but I don’t consider them as prestigious as HYP. HYP (and the rest of the Ivy League) have a strong history (and culture, if you will) that Stanford cannot match. Lots of powerful families in the East coast have generations of history with Ivy League schools, which sometimes results in certain level of disdain when it comes to “newer” schools like Stanford/MIT–no unlike their distaste for “new money.”</p>
<p>Don’t get me wrong though, Stanford and especially MIT have some of the brightest students in the world as well as a renowned faculty. However, I don’t think their names carry the same weight as the Ivy League</p>
<p>Honestly though, I don’t think MIT and Caltech should be on that list, not because they’re not good schools but because they have a strong bias towards engineering rather than the more traditional fields of academia. The same would be true of a program like Wharton. Apples and oranges</p>
<p>I think Stanford is just as prestigious as Yale and Princeton --for undergrad – and more prestigious than either for all the rest except for law, which Stanford Law is third only to Harvard and Yale.</p>
<p>what is does hypsmcaisdaljwiad stand for, if anything?</p>
<p>harvard
yale
princeton
stanford
mit
columbia
amherst
I?
Swarthmore
Dartmouth
A?
L?
J?
Williams
I?
A?
Duke
(in which case shouldnt caltech be there?)</p>
<p>For economics it’s CHP (Chicago Harvard Princeton) followed by CHMPS (Chicago Harvard MIT Princeton Stanford) followed by CHMPSBY (Chicago Harvard MIT Princeton Stanford Berkeley Yale)</p>
<p>harvard
yale
princeton
stanford
mit
columbia
amherst
Illinois-Urbana Champaign
Swarthmore
Dartmouth
Amherst
Lincoln (University of Nebraska-Lincoln)
Johns Hopkins
Williams
Illinois-Chicago
Alabama (University of Alabama)
Duke</p>
<p>Just picked the first schools that came to mind…</p>
<p>For people who worship IVY league, HYP are the best of the best. </p>
<p>I believe these people tend to be liberal arts majors, and they don’t know or don’t care to know the best science and engineering schools. As a matter of fact, there are several other schools just as good or even better in some areas.</p>
<p>If you think about the quality of individual departments, Harvard=Stanford=Berkeley cross the board. These 3 schools have most departments ranked top 5 in the nation. </p>
<p>If you focus on science and engineering, besides Stanford and Berkeley, you have MIT and Caltech. These 4 are the top 4 in the nation. Harvard competes with them in science, but lags behind in engineering. Yale has not reached that level. Princeton is as good as them in math and physics only, a tier below them in engineering. </p>
<p>In terms of faculty reputation, Harvard, Stanford, MIT, and Berkeley are the best. Each of them has more than 200 professors selected into the prestigious US national academy of sciences (NAS + NAE + IOM). </p>
<p>So to be fair, when talking about undergraduate education, it is HYPSM.</p>
<p>For graduate schools, it should be SBHM, or BSHM, or HSBM.</p>