<p>Hypothetically speaking, If one were to receive a huge ($22000) scholarship to attend Case and one didn't get into the school they were orignally hoping to get in (UPenn), should one attempt a transfer at the end of freshman year? </p>
<p>Do you think that the scholarship would get non-renewed? Would Case be offended? Would Upenn even bother?</p>
<p>Please offer your advice!</p>
<p>hmmm... I doubt Case would be offended if u can fit some excuse for it. If u get good gpa and activities ure freshman yr at case, u can bother applying... im not sure if the scholarship would be non-renewed, unless u screw up ure gpa ure 1st yr, it wouldnt get non-renewed. i dont knw...</p>
<p>Why go to Case with the idea of transferring next year? Seems like a counterproductive attitude and may prevent you from fully investing in the academic and social life at Case. My oldest son, who did not apply to Case, met a student there who transferred from Penn to Case when he visited two years ago. My second son was accepted recently and is leaning towards going to Case next year. However, my advice is a general one: I would try to go to college (wherever it may be) with an OPEN attitude, and try to enjoy the experience as much as possible. Freshman year comes only once in your life.</p>
<p>Most elite schools will not accept students that have been previously rejected unless there are very compelling reasons and a stellar academic record. They do not like to admit they were wrong the first time. On the other hand, if you were accepted previously, and now see the light, that is a different story. Additionally, many elite universities will give preferences to students applying from junior colleges or smaller universities/colleges which do not have the same type or resources or opportunities that they offer. You need to make a strong case (no pun intended) that Penn would offer something important for your educational goals that would not be available at Case. I think most of their programs overlap so it would be difficult to make that argument unless you plan to major in an esoteric area that is only available at Penn. I think your chances of being accepted to Penn are extremely small, perhaps even less than your original application, regardless of how well you do at Case. Although it is a somewhat different situation, I was on the admissions committee of a top medical school, and I do not recall serious consideration given to any applicant who was previously rejected.</p>
<p>Case is offering you a 4-year scholarship, as long as you continue to meet their GPA requirements. Students do transfer out of Case every year. If you do enroll in another school, the scholarship will be terminated and not reinstated in the event that you ever decide to come back to Case. If you are asking whether your scholarship would be pulled just because you send out transfer applications, no, I seriously doubt that.</p>
<p>You can research the likelihood of transfer chances at Penn. I suspect Wharton has its own rules and admission there is outlandishly difficult. Some schools are close to impossible. Some schools accept a lot of their rejected students later as transfers, because they realize the applicant seriously wanted the school. I know Cornell accepts a lot of transfers. They encourage transfers in their rejection letters!</p>
<p>You should select your college now as if you will stay there all 4 years and get your degree from there, because that is highly likely. </p>
<p>I will also say that Case offers a fabulous academic experience. If you have no true interest in Case, you should think about whether "using" the place for a year is fair to the waitlisted applicants who dream of attending there.</p>
<p>Optimist,
Do not know your or your family's financial situation. However, if you transferred to Penn you would give up your merit scholarship which would total about $90,000 over four years. Penn, like all Ivy League schools, does not offer any merit scholarships. The money saved would go a long way towards any advanced degree program you may want to pursue later. Something to think about.</p>
<p>Penn will not accept you next year so don't set your dreams on going there. It is very unusual for a school to accept a transfer student that they previously rejected.</p>
<p>Meow, that is not entirely true
I'm from Michigan, and its always been the rule that it is easier to get in to UofM as a transfer student. So if student did not get in applying as a freshmen, they should go to another school, MSU for example, do well and they will most likely get in as a transfer student the following fall or maybe even that spring.</p>
<p>meow360, maybe you have specific school(s) in mind, but that is definitely not true as a global statement, and would not be true for Oberlin, Notre Dame, BC, or Cornell based on cases that I know about.</p>
<p>The entire point of accepting transfer students is to replace students that are leaving. Penn accepted 231 out of 1861 transfer applicants according to collegeboard's numbers. That's not very promising. On top of that, your $22000 scholarship isn't even the highest that Case offers. So combine that with the fact that you've already been rejected at Penn, there will be applicants from better schools with better stats, and that there is relativly little you can do to vastly improve your resume. To me that spells rejection. Also, I don't know if Penn does this, but at many schools, they ask you on the application if you have previously applied. I don't paticularly know the reason for this, but I can't think of how it could help you.</p>
<p>accepting transfers also has a lot of other factors than just those. Size of the class also has a big factor is any decision to accept more students beyond the incoming classes.
I don't think being previously rejected has much to do with being accepted/rejected as a transfer student
Colleges realize that you've changed in a year, I mean, they hardly ever ask about test scores and high school GPAs on a transfer app. So stats that matter now do not matter as much when one is applying as a transfer student. Proving that you can succeed at another high-level institution is just as good and maybe better than great high school stats. Plenty of stats from a high school standpoint shows potential for collegiate success, but doing well your first year in college proves a lot more than a test or "college equivalent" course ever will.
Maybe applying twice shows the school that you really really want to be there, and therefore you will work hard when you arrive, who knows why they ask if you have already applied as a freshmen student.</p>