I can't believe he got in...

Colleges & Universities A-Z University of Michigan
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<p>I’m confused as to why you guys think they are accepting more OOS students just cause a few OOS kids on CC got accepted.</p>

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“A portion of the space will house some of the 100 new faculty members it is now in the process of hiring in interdisciplinary sciences.”</p>

<p>The $108M has to come from somewhere. If they are strapped for cash…to an extent that they need more OOS tuition money…one might ask where can they find the money [probably not budgeted].</p>

<p>And if they are so desperate for cash, why are they hiring 100 new faculty [budgeted] at the same time when universities like Harvard and Yale are cutting back on new hire?</p>

<p>So the only logical conclusion is that Michigan does not need extra OOS tuition money. They could have just postpone some of the new hires…if they are desperate for money.</p>

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<p>I just got in LSA on saturday morning, but my ACT score is 26, which is horrible. But my GPA is a 3.95 in a full IB diploma programme. And my parents are divorced, so maybe they did pity me. now i feel guilty for getting accepted. </p>

<p>Stats:</p>

<pre><code>* SAT I (by section): not sent

  • SAT IIs: not sent
  • ACT: Composite-26 English-29 Math-28 Reading-22 Science-24
  • APs: AP Psychology 5, Taking AP BC Calculus
  • IBs: Full IB Diploma Programme (12 IB Classes)
  • UM-GPA: 3.9
  • Rank: no ranks
  • Other stats:
    </code></pre>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<pre><code>* ECs listed on app: Judo, 500 community service hours, National Honor Society, Spanish Honor Society, Youth Group, Captain of the debate team, model UN, Maryland Distinguished Scholar, Honor roll 4 years, Graphic designer 10 hrs per week.

  • Job/Work Experience: Graphic Designer 10 hrs/week
  • Essays (subject and responses): about a single parent home, low income family
  • Teacher Recs: great
  • Counselor Rec: great
  • Applied on: 10/21
  • Hook (if any): Single parent home, low income ($12,000)
    </code></pre>

<p>Location/Person:</p>

<pre><code>* State or Country: Maryland

  • School Type, Average Stats of School (if available): Public, competetive
  • Ethnicity: Persian/Iranian
  • Gender: Male
    </code></pre>
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<p>“If they are strapped for cash.”</p>

<p>“And if they are so desperate for cash,”</p>

<p>".if they are desperate for money. "</p>

<p>Like I said…we’re not desperate for money. They said the $108 million mostly came from the Health system endowment (ie, money we already had lying around). Plus we’re finishing up a $3.1 billion donation campaign. I don’t see how trying to increase the yearly revenue stream through tuition to help replace dwindling state funding means we’re poor and not allowed to spend money on anything else, especially new faculty/research facilities which are going to bring in more federal/private funding.</p>

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<p>dilksy,</p>

<p>I think we basically agree. As you indicated, Michigan just wrapped up a $3.1B donation campaign thus we are in a good position to plan and invest for the future.</p>

<p>I was just saying there is no indication Michigan is trying to raise revenue through OOS tuition. Michigan is already at 35% OOS. Politically it’s unlikely they can raise OOS ratio this year.</p>

<p>And to say that Michigan is lowering OOS admission standard to get more OOS tuition is ridiculous. OOS accounts for 60+% of the overall application for 35% of the seats. It’s generally agreed that OOS admission standard is higher than in-state.</p>

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<p>We are OOS - haven’t submitted Profile or FAFSA and daughter’s already been offered 10k. If they were trying to increase revenue from OOS, why would they offer any funds at all?</p>

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<p>ccrunner and others Q: the OOS acceptance phenomenon this year is not just a CC observation. Numerous guidance offices in NJ have confirmed this with their Naviance scattergram systems…many, many more OOS students have already been admitted through ER this year, with significantly lower stats than were admitted last year. One school, in fact, has documented that with 30 total ER applicants, 27 have been admitted…One could just say that this year’s group was more qualified? the stats do not bear this out…</p>

<p>The only other explanation that could possibly be provided for this if it’s not for OOS money is that UMich dropped the ball last year and the year before and deferred/waitlisted/rejected many more in these geographic areas than they wanted to…can’t figure out any other reason…</p>

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<p>I don’t know the exact numbers, but ~$35,000 (OOS tuition) minus $10,000 (financial aid) is still more than ~$10,000 (IS tuition). Plus, like I said, that’s not the only or necessarily even the main reason they might want to increase the percentage of OOS students (or at least have laxer standards for this year). In this economy, top in-state students are more likely to stay in-state, so there’s going to be a stronger than average in-state pool this year. Conversely, OOS students are less likely to leave their home state for Michigan, and it probably doesn’t help that the state’s economy/Michigan’s football team have been receiving so much negative publicity on the national level.</p>

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<p>Hmmm. We’re in Virginia, and my D is leaning heavily towards attending Michigan simply because of the strength of their science programs and the investment being made in those programs. UVA would run around 20k per year; Mich around 14k more factoring in the scholarship and assuming no other aid. No state is without economic pain right now and my D is more than ready to leave Virginia!</p>

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<p>The Pfizer thing was a capital investment–I don’t think any GF dollars will be used for that purchase. In fact, it’s largely being funded from reserves from the medical system. As was said about, it was one heck of a bargain for the University.</p>