I can't get into Math 16A?

<p>One of the Math 16A lectures has 100 open seats, but ALL of the discussions are full :'( But scrolling down on the Schedule page, there are 3 discussions that haven't been open yet. Will they open in time, so that maybe I can get into Math 16A this semester?? I reeeeally have to get into this class!</p>

<p>Don’t worry LemonCat. I am sure that there will be a lot of people who will drop as the semester progresses. Be sure to get yourself into a discussion section with the least number of people on the waiting list. This will maximize your chances of getting into the class. Keep an eye on those closed discussion sections. From now until the beginning of the semester, there may be a possibility that those sections will open up. If they do, sign up right away on Telebears! But for now, remain calm and collected. I am sure you will get in eventually :)</p>

<p>Thanks :slight_smile:
Another important question (haha, I have no many…freshman noob), if anyone can also help me out: Can Math 53 and 54 be taken concurrently, both in the same semester?</p>

<p>If you are planning on taking math 53 & 54 shouldn’t you be taking math 1A instead of 16A…?</p>

<p>Yes, both can be taken concurrently since both only requires Math 1B as prereqs. But you are planning to do the 16 series. Why are you considering 53 and 54?</p>

<p>Because I’m looking into an Econ/Stat double major, but whereas Econ only requires the 16 series, Stat requires the 1 series, 53, and 54.
And on top of that, I wasn’t able to take any Calc classes in high school, so I basically have to start with 16 anyway :(</p>

<p>So you’re gonna take 16a then 1b?</p>

<p>16a,16b,1a,1b,53, and 54 is a lot of math to be planning for someone who hasn’t even taken calculus yet. Just wait and see how you like it.</p>

<p>Math 1A is intended to be a first calculus course for those without previous calculus (although a lot of people do retake it after AP calculus). You are supposed to take either Math 16A (for “light math” majors) or Math 1A (for “heavy math” majors), not both.</p>

<p>Economics accepts Math 1A-1B or 16A-16B, but 1A-1B (and 53 and 54 and more) are recommended for those intending graduate school in economics. So just take Math 1A and forget about 16A if you intend to also major in Statistics, which required 1A-1B, 53, and 54.</p>

<p>The math department has an on-line placement test to assess your readiness for a calculus course: <a href=“http://math.berkeley.edu/courses_1stcourse.html[/url]”>http://math.berkeley.edu/courses_1stcourse.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>But taking the 16 series and then the 1 series could be a way for someone to decrease the negative impact of the 1 series on his/her gpa, since he/she only gets 2 units of credit for 1a and 1b after 16a and 16b. Instead of 8 units of C grades, one can get 6 units of B or A and then 4 units of C. It does waste a year, but for majors with very few classes (like stats), the year loss doesn’t necessarily mean a delayed graduation.</p>

<p>EDIT: This is especially feasible since classes like Stat 133, 134, 150, and 155 don’t require Math 53-54. Only 135 requires 54, and 135 is recommended for a few of the higher classes.</p>

<p>Actually, it is 2 units for Math 1B after 16B. So it would be taking 16A-16B-1B, wasting a semester.</p>

<p>But why bother? Some people do just fine taking 1A-1B without calculus in high school. One would expect that someone contemplating a major in statistics has confidence in his/her math abilities. And someone who gets a C grade in 1A or 1B (especially after taking 16B) may want to rethink whether s/he wants to do anything math heavy like statistics.</p>

<p>Would 16A-16B-1B satisfy the requirements for the statistics major? Probably not, right? Haha I guess one could also take 16A-1A-16B-1B…and get 3+2+2+2 = 13 units out of it. </p>

<p>Of course I agree with you, but I was thinking more for people interested in like Molecular and Cell Biology or other non-quantitative majors that require the 1 series (MCB might be the only one).</p>

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<p>You forgot to indicate that you are using base 6 notation for your unit count calculation.</p>

<p>Wooooops you’re right. Dang, that’s funny.</p>

<p>Just for the record, I know 2 people who took both physics 7A and math 53 after only the 16 series. Not saying they did well, but they took the classes. </p>

<p>The difficulty of the 1 series, in my opinion, is completely dependent on the professor. I had zero problems getting A’s in the one series not necessarily because I understood all the material the best out of my classmates but because I chose the right professors. I’m not saying to always tailor your schedule to accommodate the easiest people, but for classes that you know you may be having difficulty with, a little research couldn’t hurt. I wish I had taken my own advice for physics 7A…</p>