<p>For the people who turned to Harvard, what were your reasons for turning it down for Stanford? Hopefully attending Stanford University will allow me to get into Harvard Medical School--my dream graduate school!</p>
<p>Dew,</p>
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wow!! I know Stanford is great but you guys are giving up Harvard and Yale?? .....Now I love Stanford even MORE!!!
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<p>Harvard is HARVARD. Yale is Yale. They are quite different. You should not group them together. Overall, Harvard is tied with Stanford in terms of quality of the departments. Harvard is better in medicine, while Stanford is much better in engineering and applied sciences. Yale is a little better than Stanford in law school, humanities (such as English and history). But Stanford is better than Yale in all the other departments, including all science departments, all engineering departments, business school, education school, medical school, plus social science fields like political science, psycology, sociology, and economics. So Stanford wins over Yale hands down.</p>
<p>are you talking about graduate or undergraduate studies?</p>
<p>graduate, because there is no undergraduate medicine program.</p>
<p>I'm talking about both graduate and undergraduate. If a school has a great department for graduate study and has an undergraduate program in that department, that department almost surely is great for undergraduate study. If you check the US news graduate school rankig and undergraduate ranking for business and engineering, you will be convinced about this. Yale is no exception.</p>
<p>If rankings are so important, don't forget that Yale has consistently out-ranked Stanford in U.S. News & World Report as well as in the Times Higher Education Supplement World Rankings (and by a wide margin in the latter).</p>
<p>THES ranking is a joke.</p>
<p>Stanford is ranked higher than Yale in Academic Ranking of World Universities by Shanghi Jiao-ton University and in a global universty ranking by Newsweek.
See
Academic</a> Ranking of World Universities - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/226863-newsweek-ranks-world-s-top-100-global-universities.html%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/226863-newsweek-ranks-world-s-top-100-global-universities.html</a></p>
<p>Stanford has a much more distinguished faculty than Yale by any measure. No matter you look at the membershp in national academies: NAS, NAE, and IOM, or look at the top notched academic awards such as Nobel prize, national medal of science, Turing prize, and Wolf prize, Stanford beats Yale by a large margin.</p>
<p>which one is more respected and reliable?
IMO THES is way too inconsistent</p>
<p>oh my bad there are actually three rankings!!
so yea...among the three, which one is more widely recognized?</p>
<p>THES ranking = waaaay too inconsistent</p>
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don't forget that Yale has consistently out-ranked Stanford in U.S. News & World Report
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<p>By about 1 spot.</p>
<p>Then look at all the other rankings where Stanford outranks Yale (NRC, Newsweek, Washington Monthly, etc.).</p>
<p>NRC ranks individual graduate departments, not overall undergrad. Washington Monthly uses very unique criteria (including research and service) that does not serve as a measure for the quality of undergraduate education; additionally, Harvard ranks #27 in this system....... Also, as in U.S. News and World Report, differences between Yale and Stanford are miniscule in Newsweek rankings.</p>
<p>People can argue about rankings for hours. </p>
<p>My point was that rankings cannot determine that Stanford is better than Yale or vice versa, which is what datalook is trying to claim. The differences are too small and everyone should really look at other factors than rankings when making college decisions. </p>
<p>Why should it matter that one school's graduate department is ranked ahead of the other (especially for undergrad)? In the end, we're all basically learning the same material. The difference comes from how engaging the professor was and not necessarily how many awards he or she has won.
I strongly believed that quality of teaching cannot be quantified by ANY ranking system.</p>
<p>The biggest difference between Stanford and Yale is their way in changing the world.</p>
<p>Yale has changed the world through president Bush and president Clinton.</p>
<p>Stanford has changed the world through ground-breaking technology advancement in
radar, laser, microprocessor, GPS, internet, artificial intelligience, and etc.</p>
<p>I like Stanford's way.</p>
<p>^thats the best post ive read in a while...haha soo true</p>
<p>back to the original subject (not that this tangent isn't nice; it is)...
Yale (technically waitlisted, but out of HYPS, that was my last choice, so bleh :) ), Princeton, Berkeley, UCLA, UC Davis</p>
<p>true datalook, but Stanford's achievements in each of those categories are vastly out-shadowed by Al Gore's invention of the Internet, as well as the facts that Al Gore was President Clinton's vice-president and Yale shaped President Clinton. Ergo, Yale invented the Internet :D</p>
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Yale has changed the world through president Bush and president Clinton.
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<p>I hope this is sarcasm :). I didn't detect it until the last sentence.</p>
<p>Yale, Princeton, Cornell, Brown (waitlist), Oberlin, Vassar, Bowdoin and Reed.
Was torn between Yale and Stanford but then thought about that same world changing issue...</p>
<p>Rankings are meaningless other than putting colleges and universities in general tiers: the intellectual seriousness and quality/intensity of undergraduate education is likely to be better at a Swarthmore or Pomona than HYPS, but a "small" college atmosphere, de-emphasis on nationally ranked athletics etc. won't be for everyone. Depending on fit, a bright and serious student will get to where they want to in life at any of these top schools.</p>
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other than putting colleges and universities in general tiers: the intellectual seriousness and quality/intensity of undergraduate education is likely to be better at a Swarthmore or Pomona than HYPS
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<p>Non sequitur much?</p>
<p>D chose Stanford over Harvard....in fact, she was accepted everywhere she applied except waitlisted at WUSTL.</p>