<p>If you have a good gpa and are at the top of your class, why not just lie and say you participated in the math league...what's the big deal? i'm not going to lie but don't people get into harvard by lying and saying they won like teen jeopardy or somethign? like can't i say i was in math league, science league, got tons of awards. I mean people keep saying that they hardly have to time to get to know you so isnt it probable that they WONT do a background check since they dont have time. because if they dont trust anyone then it would take forever to get admitted....
so what's wrong with that. I'm not going to flat out lie on my app but im just curious.</p>
<p>I've thought about that too. I wouldn't actually lie because if I did rejected I would always wonder if that was why and if I would have gotten in honestly. Plus, I have integrity. But people must lie about stuff like that. For example, my school's science olympiad team goes to nationals every year and does quite well there. What's to stop me from saying that I'm on the team? It's not like there's some database out there with the names of the team members and even if there was, a college that gets 35,000 applicants is not going to bother to look. I guess colleges just have to trust their applicants for the most part. I'm sure some people lie but I think that the majority probably doesn't.</p>
<p>it's called honesty... that's why you sign the application saying that your information is true to your knowledge. if you know it's not true... then yeah you just can't do that.</p>
<p>Yeah I've thought about this as much as anyone. On all my applications, I almost bs'd my extracurriculars and work experience, but then I decided that those actions would only get me accepted at colleges where I would not fit in. I made a big enough mistake by cheating on the SAT, so I'm done with that shady business for a while.</p>
<p>yeah, i lied and said i sold tylenol to little kids on my application to harvard...single choice early action by the way...and then....i realized that human trafficking and global warming were problems because of those movies, so i added on that i had worked to fight those.</p>
<p>I don't understand why colleges care about ECs so much, when there is no set standard, they can be easily embelleshed (or fabricated), etc. In fact, I would guess a lot (most) people flower up their extracirruculars, and it is exremely unlikely that anyone will find out (or care).</p>
<p>I know lots of people who lied on their applications and got accepted, however i am not suggesting anyone should do that. Also they guy who said they cheated on ur SATs how did u do that?? You either know it or u don't??</p>
<p>lol...obviously he was kidding...read into the sarcasm</p>
<p>u cheated on the sat? what did u get?</p>
<p>karl Marks: totally agree a girl in my school lied about beign an officer in NHS bc she didnt get that position and ended up getting into that school. which makes me sick bc its not fair.
i try hard and am simply above average whereas people lie and look like saints</p>
<p>this is a joke?</p>
<p>admissions ppl aren't idiots though... I figure that you can probably get away with a decent amount of lieing but if it's excessive they'll get suspicious. Especially if you mention a lot of stuff that maybe teachers in your recs don't mention...</p>
<p>coffee crazy, that happened with some kid at my school a few years back and apparently some parent found out that the kid had lied (and cheated on a couple of things) and called the school. it affected admissions to that school from my school for several years b/c the school (an ivy I think) thought students at my HS were dishonest (or so the story goes...)</p>
<p>So lesson to those thinking about lying: use your better judgment. If you cheat, chances are that at some point, people are gonna find out. and that will impact both you and other students who WERE honest.</p>
<p>wow ya totally
honesty is the best policy</p>
<p>but it just gets me thinking my friend applied to some top notch uni's and got in everywhere but...UNC that just puts a damp on my day that someone can get soo far with such lies. </p>
<p>thanks tho</p>
<p>^^^^ was that an OSS UNC applicant?</p>
<p>I agree w/ Karl Marks (gotta like that name) about ECs. Even if somebody participated a lot in an EC, it could have been just a lot of bull. For instance, if you just do a club, and you basically just show up but really don't care, how's an admissions rep going to see through that? </p>
<p>Lying can be dangerous b/c first, if it's a huge thing and you don't write your essay on it then that college admissions committee might wonder why not, and if you did and made an error or something becuase you didn't know, they might see through that. (Trust me, I'm sure they consider these things). Also, if none of your teacher recs mention it, or your counselor rec, that has to be a warning signal to whoever is reading your app. Just don't do it, but if you do, know that you run a high risk. </p>
<p>I am quite positive that Admissions committees realize students exaggerate and BS a lot of stuff. Even good kids.</p>
<p>I wouldn't take my chances. </p>
<p>Someone on an admissions committee once told me that although they don't have the time to check and verify each & every application, the process is random. They'll randomly select several apps from the stack and check to make sure that nothing is fabricated. And as others have already mentioned, even if you get accepted it's very likely that you'll get caught sooner or later.</p>
<p>Definitely not a risk I'd be willing to take.</p>
<p>My middle dd participated in a somewhat unusual EC in which she was nationally ranked. Several colleges, including the one she attended, did check up on it. I wouldn't advise anyone to lie.</p>
<p>And, in this age of online info, it is amazing what's out there about you! One of my kids is involved in a nationally-run EC and to his immense surprise, he found his scores (along with everyone else who competed on that round) for one of the competitions posted on another high school's website. Scores are normally available only to those with login credentials -- but you can't control who cuts and pastes....</p>
<p>It's too easy to Google an applicant and find out what's really happening (or who's REALLY doing it). Said you volunteered for XXX organization's annual fundraiser? You better have -- because the organization published its program thanking all the volunteers on its website. (True story. This is why we all google ourselves periodically -- just to see what we've done that shows up on the web -- whether we gave our consent to publish or not.)</p>