I don't understand the point of most clubs...

<p>I don't understand clubs like Key Club, National Honors Society, California Scholarship Federation (or some crap like that). Also those clubs that exist for a "good cause" but never shows any action. I don't get it. What do they do and what is the point of it?</p>

<p>Call me a cynical person, but they are not there to serve the community, but they exist to give the members a leg up in their resume. NHS and the California Scholarship thing sounds like a club glorifying the members. Key club is just a thin cloak for a club that has no real meaning. Sorry, you intentions do not line up with the actual results. I mean Key Club wastes tens of thousands of dollars having these "rallies" to "pump" the members up for community service. No, no, no, that is the wrong way to utilize that money. People should be doing community service to help; they should not do it to get any benefits in return. Do you know what those thousands of dollars can be used for? Renovating schools, the community parks, perhaps feed the homeless that lurk the streets literally 20 minutes away from school.</p>

<p>I will call you a cynical person. Sounds like you need to calm down a little bit. Maybe your school doesn’t do as much as others but these clubs really do help the community. In my key club we’ve done probably 100+ hours of community service. Don’t bash the entire organization just because of one thing you’ve seen or read. Were all not the same.</p>

<p>Now, is there a real necessity of this hierarchic system that key Club has? Also, I believe at least 90% of kids do it for the wrong reasons. Honestly, I even find putting in hours into the school record is sickening.</p>

<p>I’m on a similar page as you, but perhaps not as extreme as to be as cynical. I was excited to get into NHS at my school, but by the end of it I wished that I hadn’t joined. The problem here was that we were doing mediocre things, like helping the school pack lunches, work at a concession stand, etc. rather than actual, legit community service.</p>

<p>I don’t need the hours I do it to help people. And yes many do it for the wrong reasons but as long as they actually. Put in time why not let them have it on their application? And what hierarchical system do you mean?</p>

<p>The hierarchic system I am talking about is the region representative and state reps, school reps. My school’s club also has its own system of president, class reps/presidents, treasurer and secretary and stuff like that. I really find that unnecessary; it has no real purpose other than a title. I just find it fundamentally wrong. You do not help to gain recognition, you do it to better another while humbling yourself. Humility is the way to live.</p>

<p>“A leader is best when people barely know he exists, when his work is done, his aim fulfilled, they will say: we did it ourselves.” -Lao Tzu</p>

<p>Haha. I agree with you guys. Almost everyone does “key club” for college or for volunteering credit with the exception of a couple people. It’s pretty dumb if you think about it. People should just do what they love and what they genuinely like. That’s why I started a Gay-Straight Alliance at my school because I love fighting for LGBT rights. It’s the same reason why I’m not in all the clubs people join to have a leg up in admissions. Most of the people in those clubs lack passion or love for what they do. I wish people would just live their lives for themselves and not for college.</p>

<p>No offense but the quote was a little much. And my school does the same thing and I do think it’s a little excessive. I think our teacher (leader) could do it all herself but The advisors help her. And the state and regional people keep the national organization going.</p>

<p>Like I have said, the INTENT is good; just like the intent of communism is good. However, there is a major flaw; in practice, they do not hold up. Just think about it for a while.</p>

<p>Our key club which I am heading next year did 1265 hrs of community service this year. Key club is pretty much the youth version of Kiwanis International, and while I wasn’t involved in it one of the things our district governer did was help an organization bring two surgery centers to Tanzania through raising 50,000 as a PNW division as a whole. </p>

<p>A lot of service opportunities tend to be pretty meaningless, but it’s the ones that do make an impact that make all the service organizations out there worth it.</p>

<p>I personally disagree. While it does have sentimental meaning, but looking from a systematic point of view, it is incredibly ineffective. I rather have a handful who really have a passion than have dozens who are lukewarm.</p>

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Lawl, where is Billy?</p>

<p>Billy probably would agree.</p>

<p>I’ve thought about it and I think your just using your personal experience to bash something as a whole. There may be flaws, but so does everything.</p>

<p>Perhaps I am, but like I’ve said, I tend to by very cynical. What percentage of Key Club members world wide end up working in the non profit? And what percent continues this community service, no matter how insignificant it may seem, in college and after college?</p>

<p>Many colleges have non profit groups that do community service and I’m sure that if the did it in high school they will do it in college as a force of habit. And how many work for the non profit? Probably everyone who works for it were a part of it or at least have been to an event.</p>

<p>honestly though, they don’t help get into top schools. Maybe tier 2/3, but not top schools.</p>

<p>Dan, you are being way too idealistic.</p>

<p>Sorry cynical, call me optimistic.</p>

<p>I’ll call you quixotic.</p>