<p>Seriously, even if you don't beleive such things, too bad for you. If you went the hard route, that deserves an applause, but this is the route my friend learned about, and found out about too late after doing all 5 things and losing his social life in high school. I however, don't plan on attending MIT because all my friends there are being bogged with homework, and after taking a look at their physics homework and tests I don't think I will get any sleep for four years.</p>
<p>I'm awaiting your response to my post...</p>
<p>I still don't see why you're saying the admissions office would think 1600 + 4.0 makes a person a good fit for MIT. To go to an extreme - if a 1600 + 4.0 student is a twice-convicted felon, does he still have that surefire admission? Let's tone the example down a bit. If a 1600 + 4.0 student writes bland essays, lacks passion in his or her life, doesn't do much of anything that's interesting, and clearly has nothing else going for him or her besides the 1600 + 4.0, will the admission still be such a lock?</p>
<p>A 1600 and 4.0 will probably act alone in getting you past the first "triage" step in admissions, which weeds out the applicants who aren't competitive. But after that, it's all about the subjective pieces - the essays, accomplishments (not just academic - personal, professional, etc.), and recommendations. These things carry a huge amount of weight.</p>
<p>Dude, I'm a junior.
OK to EVERYONE whom feel bothered by my comment about disregarding other parts of the application and are still in confusion, look at the obvious. If they have a 4.0 AND a 1600, they likely won't have the negative personality and essays and recommendations in the first place.</p>
<p>good response?</p>
<p>I didn't apply to MIT, is that a good enough response?</p>
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<p>Likely? Your initial post about "the secret of guaranteed admissions" doesn't allow room for something to be "likely" instead of "definite". You said that admission is guaranteed with two things on the list - "1600" and "4.0 unweighted". This assertion is specifically what I am addressing.</p>
<p>It really is all about the perfect match. Admissions officers have stated in the past that they give a first glance to the numbers, then read about who the person really is. If you have that 1600 and that 4.0, but your application (including essays and recommendations) seems to suggest that you aren't a good fit for MIT, do you really think you'll be admitted?</p>
<p>Something's off here:</p>
<p>"If you went the hard route, that deserves an applause, but this is the route my friend learned about, and found out about too late"</p>
<p>Wow. So the "hard route", actually having passion or motivation or doing interesting things, you know, the way of showing that you're actually a person rather than a collection of numbers deserves applause?</p>
<p>Good to know. And for those of you who find out about the "other" route, and believe it, and actually make use of it, I pity you.</p>
<p>Not only because it's clearly absurd, but also because you've just given up life in favor of college.</p>
<p>I suggest that YOU wait til next march. Once your decision rolls around, "feel free to reply".</p>
<p>By the way, I think your friend is pulling your leg and laughing at you because you actually believe him.</p>
<p>To point out a flaw in your argument...</p>
<p>No one has ever mentioned such a "guaranteed route" and you have no evidence whatsoever to back your claim up besides "an inside connection who goes to MIT."</p>
<p>Why don't you prove it, who is your "inside connection"?</p>
<p>I think you are still missing the point anyways. Of course MIT loves people who get prestigious awards like ISEF and USAMO and RSI, but those are people who obviously already have a passion for some aspect of math and science. I highly doubt it is something like "this person got a 1600 ::check:: and he/she made the USAMO team ::check::, ok they're in."</p>
<p>Hey, and stop insulting people too.</p>
<p>Actually, I beg to differ.</p>
<p>There are many students who I've seen, getting 1600 and 4.0 rejected by MIT.</p>
<p>I dunno where you got this idea, but I'm definately stating its false.</p>
<p>I know somebody with a 1600 and 4.0 who was deferred from MIT.</p>
<p>This "policy" doesn't make any sense. Certainly, I would be very happy if it was true, since I'm a junior and the "1600/4.0" criterion would definitely help me. However, there's no way that a college is going to look past all other factors and admit solely on the basis of SAT scores and grades. </p>
<p>If their criterion was <em>3</em> of the 5, it would make much more sense (especially since the number of qualifiers would drop off dramatically).</p>
<p>Yea. I know someone who has 1600 on the SATs and 4.0 and he got deferred. So your little "guaranteed admissions" is nonsense. Btw, you spelled "guaranteed" wrong.</p>
<p>on USAMO - yes, 250-300 qualify every year. But the number of qualifiers who are also juniors who will be putting it on their apps the following fall is much smaller. Maybe 100.</p>
<p>oh, silliness.</p>
<p>both people this year at my high school with 1600s and 4.0s were deferred early action. In fact, one of them was a RECRUITED water polo player. So, 1600 + 4.0 + Recruited Water Polo = deferred. Hmmm</p>
<p>Guys, all he said was that if you have ALL of USAMO, RSI, 1600, and 4.0, you'd get in. I'd tend to believe this...in the meritocracy that MIT is, who can rival those stats? Sure, there have probably been a few people who haven't gotten in with those credentials...but I'd bet any amount of money that the people who do have those credentials are accepted at a 80+% rate. Also, I think that it is incorrect to call doing those things the "secret" or "easy" way in; they are VERY difficult to achieve and it's pretty obvious that they help!</p>
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Guys, all he said was that if you have ALL of USAMO, RSI, 1600, and 4.0, you'd get in.
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<p>Sorry, cavalier, but this is what he said:</p>
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They have a criteria of 5 things, and if you achieve 2 of the 5 you are in. 1. USAMO 2. ISEF 3. 1600 4. 4.0 (unweighted) 5. I forgot what the last one was, but it was some weird national award.
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<p>"Obviously there is no easy way unless you have achieved either number 5 on the list or 2 of the other 4. I actually know because my friend goes there right now, unlike you waiting to get rejected from MIT because you have no inside connection. Tell me how things go in March, and then feel free to reply."</p>
<p>Heeheehee!</p>
<p>Ahhh, I read the OP's first post yesterday and posted today. Anyways, can we all agree that if you have all 5 (or even 4/5) that you are very very likely to get in? I realize that essays and recs still would mean a lot, but I'm sure someone capable of that stuff wouldn't have any trouble in the essay/rec area.</p>