i hate engineering,yet I can't quit since I am so far into it.

<p>I am doing my MechE engineering major(starting junior year) and let's just say I don't like it one bit.Stressful classes,study,study and more study..that's all I talk nowadays.Every class I start,hard professor that fails half the class and exams that are ridiculously hard.</p>

<p>I can't quit now since I am so far into it,and that would start all over again.It could be that I am a transfer student and in much need of a social life(which I don't have one now).It's like the only thing I want to do now is party,party,party and make crap ton of friends and just enjoy college while I am here.I could care less what I do with engineering.</p>

<p>I am thinking of joining the greek scene next semester.Not sure if that's the best decision,but at this point I am honestly tired of it.Not to mention 80% guys and 20% girls(most taken I am sure).</p>

<p>If you don’t want to endure it, switch to an easier major. I am sure most of your classes will transfer over. </p>

<p>Are you doing well even thought you hate it, or do you hate it because you are not doing well?</p>

<p>I am passing classes(thankfully) but not A or Bs.I did fail a couple of classes,but I am retake immediately(I am taking one now and hopefully I pass).</p>

<p>Dont quit Engineering because you want to party. If this is the only reason then you should just finish it out since you are so far in and not doing poorly. When you graduate, you can get a job anywhere. MechE is one of the most versatile degrees at the undergraduate level. Just because you have an engineering degree doesnt mean you have to be an engineer. You can go to many industries because you are viewed as intelligent. After you start working then you will have money to party with. girls still are fun and get crazy after college. Also, after graduation you can be the boss of those guys who partied those 4 years.</p>

<p>Honestly, this is exactly why I joined the military instead of going to college first. All I wanted to do was have fun and needed that time to gain some perspective on what I really wanted to do. The High School ~> College production line isn’t for everyone. </p>

<p>Think about what you want and don’t want to do, with concrete reason (not because its hard). Then when you make the decision, put the effort into it that will get you to where you want to be. Good luck.</p>

<p>I want to get a job that’s mostly in the business area and later on management…I don’t see myself as an engineer or doing technical things that most people do.</p>

<p>I’m in the same position. Senior year, about six months away from an undergrad degree in industrial engineering, but it’s a struggle to finish. Classes are boring and hard, and I have no desire to work as an engineer after I get out of here.</p>

<p>“I have no desire to work as an engineer after I get out of here.” </p>

<p>Don’t rule it out quite yet. Many of us have found engineering jobs that are lots more interesting and less grueling than engineering academics. Good luck!</p>

<p>believe it or not, you can get a business job with a engineering degree, but you cant get a engineering job with an business degree. Plus even if your in a business job, you will get payed more because of you degree. The highest paying jobs in this country is engineering. My advise is to finish your major degree, you’d be happy you did, in the future.</p>

<p>Passing classes with mostly Cs isn’t really passing classes. I guess you don’t like engineering and it doesn’t like you. </p>

<p>Your job prospects are diminished with less than a 3.0 GPA. You may want to continue engineering just to get out of school with a degree but also use your electives to take business classes, if that is your desired career path.</p>

<p>Gonna be real with you man, if you can’t party and do engineering you’re doing it wrong. It’s about time management. Finish your work, then go party balls on the weekends man. Sure, you might need to turn down going out on a Wednesday or a Thursday. You might also have that weekend when you’re slammed and can’t go out at all. But in general, you should have plenty of time to go out and make a “crap ton of friends”.</p>

<p>I completed my bachelors in engineering and am currently getting my masters. Many of my friends are also engineering and I never felt like I couldn’t go out enough. </p>

<p>It’s worth it in the end. While many of your friends will find it hard to find jobs, you my friend will find one much easier.</p>

<p>I’ve looked into changing majors myself.
You’re gonna find there are no uses for many of the math and science classes twisted for engineering outside of engineering. People tend to be WAY overly optimistic about engineering classes and their worth across the system. </p>

<p>Diff Eq is good for… not much unless maybe a degree in Math. Business, didn’t need calc 2 or 3 and certainly none of the other crap you took, however what just about every degree does need that engineering degrees are light on are Gen Ed’s. </p>

<p>You’re heavy in math and probably (assumption here, but I am a junior too) low on most everything else. Even then, it’s engineering math or science and a lot of schools taylor their math and science classes which sounds great at the time, until you need those credits for something else, then you’re screwed. Comp 1 and 2, and a few other lousy gen eds aren’t gonna cut it. </p>

<p>What I will say is, if you do switch, you won’t even begin to comprehend the easiness of the classes by comparison. </p>

<p>People will keep telling you it’s worth it, but that’s for them, not you. You know you, and if you don’t even plan on doing anything with it then F’it. Why bother. </p>

<p>“Passing classes with mostly Cs isn’t really passing classes. I guess you don’t like engineering and it doesn’t like you.”</p>

<p>Sorry but this statement to me makes no sense. I speak with my IE advisor constantly and we have about 300 undergrads currently in the program here at Iowa State. According to her, 70% of the students in the program have a GPA between 2.0 and 2.8. I would say a 2.6 is a pretty average GPA here.</p>

<p>By your logic, 70% of the IE students here at Iowa State are not passing their classes. </p>

<p>I would say, keep going, finish your degree and get out. </p>

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<p>This has to be one of the most idiotic things I have read on here in a while. Differential equations govern literally everything you see around you. Anything that must be described using a rate (read: everything) can be described or modeled by a differential equation. The concepts get used in engineering, physics, chemistry, finance, and a host of other places.</p>

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<p>That’s rather unfortunate, then, as all the schools with which I am familiar places their engineers in the same calculus classes as the math majors. The only ones who get a special flavor of calculus, for example, are business majors, and that is barely considered calculus.</p>

<p>To quote Art Linkletter; “Kids say the darn-dest things!”</p>

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I had access to a few GPA data points at Penn State, mainly due to academic honors which related percentiles to GPA’s. For example, I knew that the top 33% of EE seniors had about a 3.25 GPA, because that was the cutoff for Eta Kappa Nu, and that the top 20% of all engineering seniors had about a 3.60 GPA, because that the was the cutoff for Tau Beta Pi. The overall median GPA was right around 3.00 across engineering, and I have not seen anything from other schools that support substantially different numbers.</p>

<p>It is hard to find hard numbers, but according to Iowa State:</p>

<p>“Close to 60% of the respondents’ averaged between a 3.00 and 4.00 grade point average (GPA) and almost 37% between a 2.00 and a 3.00 GPA. Just 4% or 170 respondents out of 3971 self identified as having a GPA between a 1.00 - 1.99 and eleven students indicated they had a GPA of less than 1.00.”</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.registrar.iastate.edu/sites/default/files/uploads/advisers/Stud%20SurveyAdv(Final%20Rpt).pdf[/url]”>http://www.registrar.iastate.edu/sites/default/files/uploads/advisers/Stud%20SurveyAdv(Final%20Rpt).pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Engineering made up about 25% of the respondents, and while that does not make your claims impossible, it would suggest that they are unlikely.</p>

<p>A quick perusal of the Iowa State 2013 graduation program shows that 7 out of 36 IE graduates had a 3.5+ GPA, not far from what I saw at Penn State across engineering, and inconsistent with 70% having less than 2.8 (it would mean that only 11% of students had GPA’s in the 2.8-3.5 range). </p>

<p>I would check with your advisor again to see what caveats were on those GPA numbers you cited.</p>

<p>At Michigan I’d say the average IOE GPA was about 3.1 probably, and the whole of engineering was probably inbetween 3.0 and 3.1, and I imagine that most similar universities in the same/similar major would be about the same. I’d highly doubt the average IE major at Iowa State has a 2.6. A difference like that would put the Iowa State grads at a huge disadvantage, which they wouldn’t do.</p>

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<p>I know Michigan has dumbed down math for the Engineering majors, however Engineering majors can still take the Math major versions of the math classes and have them count for credit for the Engineering degree, and it’s not uncommon for Engineering majors to do so. Engineering majors take the same math as the business and science majors generally though. </p>

<p>At UIUC while I was there the calculus series was exactly the same as that for the math majors. Engineering programs took a version of differential equations that was less proof-based than that for math majors. I am not sure what math majors were required to take in terms of linear algebra at the time, but the version we took was based quite a bit on proofs, though I suspect it had more of an applied math flavor to it, as it wasn’t all that abstract. I believe most science majors had the same or similar requirements. Business majors took lowly versions of pretty much everything.</p>

<p>Purdue has the same math classes for all STEM majors I believe, as non STEM majors (such as education or business) did not need Diff. Eq or Linear algebra for instance. </p>

<p>Supposedly Purdue’s average GPA is a 2.8, but I don’t thing that it is engineering specific. And we’re supposed to be the school with the least grade inflation. It’s odd that people will make a stink about our 2.8 average and neglect this 2.6 average…</p>

Get out quickly and save yourself from spending on classes that don’t count for other majors.