<p>Hi, I have tons of questions about transferring.
Background info: I did horrible in high school (around 2.0 GPA), I have no EC, Horrible SAT 1600/2400</p>
<p>Currently I’m a student at a NY Private University. I am a sophomore, Accounting major, will have 66 credits by the end of my spring term. My current overall GPA is 3.64
Ok, so I’ve been a NY resident for all my 19 years, and lately I have this desire to go far away from NY during my college years. I really want to attend a UC, mainly UC Berkeley (HAAS). I probably have no chance at these UC’s right now, and also the out of state tuition is just too much. So, my plan is to live with my aunt who lives at CA and attend CCC for 1-2 years while getting residency for tuition purposes, then transferring over to one of the UC’s and dorming.</p>
<p>I was wondering, is it easy to get a residency?
If I attend CCC should I transfer over the credits I earned in my current Uni? If I did will it affect me negatively when applying for a UC since it’s not CCC courses, and that by the time I apply to a UC I might have just too much credits, I hear they don’t like to accept students with too much credits.
Will my chances decrease if I apply for transfer only after 1 year?
Should I do that or should I start fresh all over ignoring the 2 years I spent in NY?
Just how important are EC’s when applying as a transfer?
Anything else I should know?</p>
<p>look up what defines a senior standing applicant and make sure you don’t take too many units you become one. I don’t think it will be possible not to if you try to establish residency by taking classes at a ccc.</p>
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You can’t. It’s always really surprising to me people would assume you can just hide your academic history.</p>
<p>I don’t know much about California Residency laws. I would just google it and research that.</p>
<p>You are required to report all previous colleges attended on UC applications so you might as well transfer over transcripts to your CCC. You can’t just “forget” the time spent at the Private University in New York and start fresh. </p>
<p>Your chances will not decrease if you apply after one year. Just remember to make sure you satisfy both pre-reqs and 7-course breadth on listed on Assist.org ( Haas is listed under Business Administration ).</p>
<p>Meaningful EC’s such as internships will definitely help. The essays on the UC Applications and Haas supplemental form will be important too. </p>
<p>As far as your question to credit limitations, this is what I found:</p>
<p>UCB: Each of the individual colleges and the Haas School of Business establishes its own unit limitation policies for students who have attended a four-year institution before enrolling at a community college:
The College of Letters and Science: A student who has accumulated more than
80 transferable semester units from a four-year institution is considered to have excess units and will not be admitted. A student who has completed 80 or fewer UC transferable semester units at a four-year university and then transfers to a community college will not accrue excess units and will be considered for admission. Students will be granted subject credit, but not unit credit, for appropriate two-year college coursework taken in excess of the community college 70-unit limit; such subject credit may be used to satisfy/complete requirements.
The College of Environmental Design: This college follows the same unit accumulation policy as the College of Letters and Science (see above), except that its limit on transferable coursework taken at a four-year university is 86 semester units.
Other colleges: UC Berkeley’s other colleges total both university units and a maximum of 70 community college UC-transferable units. The limits on combined transferable university and community college work:
College of Chemistry: 80 semester units; applicants with more than
80 units require special approval.
College of Engineering: 89 semester units.
College of Natural Resources: 90 semester units. Though the College does not have a specific unit limitation, it carefully reviews applicants with 90 or more semester units to ensure that they can graduate within a reasonable time.
Haas School of Business: No maximum limit.</p>
<p>As you can see, Haas says it has to credit maximum limit for applicants who attended a 4-year university/college and then a CCC.</p>
<p>I am currently applying as a History major to Cal. Current Cal students/applicants for Haas chime in if I missed anything or made any mistakes, my info is purely from assist and reading about Haas on this forum.</p>
<p>Most likely if you did decide to go to a California Community College, you will need to stay there for at least a year to establish residency. As for transferring over units from another school, some CCC’s do not do that. They will accept the transcript only to get rid of prereqs you might have already taken for certain classes but will not transfer for credit and grade. This meaning you will have to send in your transcript from NY Private University anyways, along with the CCC if you are willing to attend. If you do transfer you, it will be sort of frowned upon that you have taken a lot of units more units after your two years you were eligible to transfer.</p>
<p>Also you cannot forget about the past schooling, this topic tends to be up on forums a lot. Ommitting information such as past institutions enrolled in can cause a rejection from the college you are hoping to apply to and can also cause you to be on their blacklist that can be spread nationwide. If you are wondering how they find this information, it’s called the National Clearinghouse.</p>
<p>If you are still wanting to omit the information and you want to just transfer out from 1 year after you receive your residency in CCC. It is very very difficult to fit in the 60 semester/90 quarter units minimum to transfer in just one year.</p>
<p>My suggestion go ahead and just try to transfer from where ever you are. Given UC’s give their transfer priority to California Community College and California College residents. But to omit your information from where you are attending now and to take another year of school shows a lot of determination and will postpone your graduation time… yet is a very very big mistake.</p>
<p>Ok, so I guess omitting is not an option. I just wanted to do it because I feared that I may be rejected for having too much credits.
So another question is what happens to some course credits that the CCC and UC’s don’t offer? For example, one of my 3 credit course is Discover New York, its where we explore the city, learn NY’s past, etc. I doubt that CCC and UC offer those.</p>
<p>You shouldn’t fear about having too many credits, you should fear the selectiveness of the UC’s when it comes to the admission of out of state students. If I remember correctly UCB Haas last year only accepted 5-10 transfers from out of state and that’s for just Business. Public Colleges tend to be very selective when it comes to admissions for out of states, so it’s not just the UC system but it also is the U Texas system as well.</p>
<p>Only courses that are transferrable to the UC’s (which ever UC college you are applying to) will calculate your UC GPA which is the GPA they look at for admissions. Courses that do not meet transferrability will simply be disregarded, not attained for credit, and not included in the calculation of UC GPA for admissions.</p>
<p>When admitted to which ever UC college you applied to, the credits that are transferrable will be the only one processed into the college. You can always petition for course credit after being admitted but not during admissions. If you had a question about what happens to GPA after you have been admitted, it starts over.</p>
<p>So if I start at CCC my 3.64 GPA disapears? Say I apply to a UC after completing the reqs at CCC and say I get a GPA of like 3.8 there. Will it get averaged with both my GPA’s and be a 3.7 or only 3.8 from the last college I attended.</p>
<p>jetlag: They will only consider UC transferable GPA. I think Haas might consider pre-req GPA also. Here is a Q/A directly from the Haas undergrad. website</p>
<p>Question: How does the Admission Committee evaluate applications?
Answer: The application is broken down as follows: 50% Grades & Coursework, 35% Essays and 15% Resume/extra-curricular activities.</p>
<p>sstory:
He doesn’t need to worry about the senior standing issue</p>
<p>Each of the individual colleges and the Haas School of Business establishes its own unit limitation policies for students who have attended a four-year institution before enrolling at a community college</p>
<p>Haas School of Business: No maximum limit.</p>
<p>versus.</p>
<p>The College of Letters and Science: A student who has accumulated more than
80 transferable semester units from a four-year institution is considered to have excess units and will not be admitted.</p>
You’re acting like the OP is only considering Haas</p>
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<p>If the OP wants a chance at anything besides Haas they should be well aware of senior standing. Haas is a toss-up at best even for flawless applicants, so the OP should be prepared for the likely event they won’t be admitted. It would be a shame if they lost their eligibility to attend anywhere else as a result.</p>
<p>Like you quoted, the OP is very much interested in Haas. That’s the reason I was posting information relevant to Haas.</p>
<p>The OP also has 66 units from his current school. If his current school is on a semester system, there will be a problem because he will only have 24 units to complete everything needed from a CCC without being considered ineligible for most UCs. If those are quarter units, he would have 46 semester units to complete what he needs for a transfer.</p>
<p>jetlag89 - To clear the questions up… kind of. If you do attend a California Community College, both your GPA you receive from the ccc and your previous school will be calculated. Calculations go by what is able to be transferred to which ever UC you are willing to go to. No, they will not average out the two total GPA’s but they will calculated by the grades you received and by how many units on UC transferability.</p>
<p>As for the maximum amount of units, be aware like the comments above me that there is no maximum for UC Berkeley Haas School of Business but “be aware of senior standing”. If you’re thinking about transferring to UCLA Business Economics, it will be very hard to transfer when you attain California Residency to attend the ccc you choose for a year. By then you might probably surpass the junior standing mark which is slightly critical in admissions.</p>
<p>If you’ve finished the major prereqs for the universities you want to attend and have the sufficient amount of units to apply, why take more classes? The UC’s will be wondering about that. Just to clarify, UCB Haas accepted 7% last year for transfers. Of that 7%, only the eligble applicants that finished the prereqs were considered which was 23%.</p>
<p>You still have a shot at UCLA and UC Berkeley but I would have to say that your chances to transfer are very slim (because of the residency to transfer and no available EC’s). I’m a Business Administration major and I’ll be applying for Fall 10’, so I know a lot about prereqs for the UC’s to transfer to UCLA (Business Economics), UCI (Business Administration avalaible Fall 10’ for transfers), UCB Haas.</p>
<p>Hi lol, I’m here to ask another question.
I looked at my course, and the courses req. for most of the UC’s ECON major, and I already have completed most of those courses, I also have alot of those general courses down too, like science, art, literature, writing, etc. So I was thinking since the max. credits most UC want is 80-90, would it be possible if I just took like 30credits at CCC, just the courses I need to transfer. If then I would have 96credits, but I’m sure a few credits won’t be able to get transferred over because I attended a Catholic Uni. Like Discover NY, Perspective on Christianity, Intro to liberal studies, the UC’s have Econ History but its for the upper level, and the one I took was a freshman level. So I think credit wise I might be able to make it, but will they look down on me if they see that I only took 24-30 credits only at CCC and transferred? Its like I’m taking the short way rather then taking 60 like the rest of the people.</p>
<p>“UCLA: With the exception of the School of Nursing (postlicensure), UCLA generally considers a student who has accumulated more than 86 transferable semester units (130 transferable quarter units) at a university to have exceeded maximum units allowable for admission. Such a student will not be admitted. For the College of Letters and Science, a student who completed 86 or fewer UC-transferable semester units (130 or fewer transferable quarter units) at a university then transferred to, and remained exclusively at, a community college does not exceed the maximum units allowable for admission purposes.”</p>
<p>if he/she transfers to a CCC he/she won’t hit the unit cap for UCLA. same goes for berkeley L&S. As long as he/she transfers to a community college before the 80 unit cap, he/she can accrue units without having to worry about being ineligible due to the unit cap.</p>
<p>just make sure you stay at the community college up till transferring. Also i’ve spoken to admission officerse at various UC campuses and the 2 semesters required to get CCC priority can be the fall and spring prior to transferring. Some people think you have to stay at a CCC for a whole year AND THEN apply.</p>